Do you see the insanity of believing in a God that did not pre-exist? I believe God has always existed.?

Before there was any creation... there was Deity and there was "Void and Darkness on the deep"... and on the first day Deity created light and seperated the light from the darkness and the light he called day the the darkness night... and that was the end of the first day..."""

What this all measn is that Deity (Deity is what finite man has named as God) existed before any creation was begun... Deity was without beginning and without end...in a dark void... no energy, nothing... no light... nothing... no space... nothing... on planets...nothing ... only VOID... emptiness and darkness... and Deity was the...UNCAUSED CAUSE... torpod, quiecient, omni-present; omni-potential; omni-niescnet. The prefix omni = all and the word pressent = everywhere; the word potential = withouth limits able to do all things; and the word nicecent = knowing everything. Remember there is no Time/Space as yet!

God was "quiscent"... meaning a sort of potential dormancy a "happening waiting to happen..." and then he ACTED... and upon that one action potential became reality... and it was as if God "took his first breath"... and with that exhale... God's essence or particles filled the darkness and void... and that first breath was "energy" and the first aspect of creation was energy and it was created....and with that first breat of exhalation the creation of (light) energy became an explosion of "light" or energy...which we call the Big Bang... and Deity seperated the light... or energy into "day" = positive energy and "night" = negative energy... and that was the end of the first day. And upon that action The Uncaused Cause became ACTIVE and EXISTENTIAL = THE FIRST SOURCE AND CENTER of all essence of CREATION. What Quantum physicists call today... "The God Particle" of creation.

Deity needed essence in order to create... essence that was to become matter... energy, positive and negative as the basis of all energy and matter... Deity went from being dormant to active and his essence fill the darkness and void into energy = (light) both Positive = (day) and Negetive = night) and for that God had matter or His essence to make material reality or Creation of the Universes... = "The God Particle."

Yes and with that action on the first day Deity went from the UNCAUSED CAUSE to the FIRST SOURCE AND CENTER... and recognized hiself from inactive potential to active actual and became the I AM = self-awareness, from existential to experiential. And with the actualization of the I AM = GOD ...and the beginning of Creation, was established the Son of God... the CO-CREATOR, of THE ESSENCE OF GOD... the I AM... and the union of the CO-CREATOR within the I AM begot the union of the two by the mindal molding together by a DIVINE MINDAL SPIRIT that was shared and made the two a union of one... and that binding... the activation of the DIVINE HOLY SPIRIT was the force that was the seat of all spiritual and mindal reality in the activity in creation of spiritual essence and the third essence of God the I AM, the First Source and Center, the UNCAUSED CAUSE.

So from the very beginning they all were contained within the UNCAUSED CAUSE... and the DIVINITY of ALL GOD'S attributes combined into ONE GOD ...the unification.

So Deity did exist from all time... as the UNCAUSED CAUSE... before there was a man who could with his finite and limited mind acknowledge him and give him recognition, and with the personalization of the Deity by man the term God always acknowledged and put into existence... We are the finite ones... NOT... GOD, THE CO-CREATOR SON, or THE DIVINE HOLY SPIRIT that is shared by the two to make three... as the DIVINE HOLY SPIRIT IS THE source of all Divinity... mindal attributes of spirit, that spirit that we are endowed with at our conception by God and fuse with our physical bodies that create our eternal souls... for us to develop during this life... That spirit that enlivens mankind's minds, all minds... Think about it!!! Not hard to understand!

I would not call it insanity because such is a judgment. Besides that word insanity is a funny two-fold word.

Sanity is defined as having sound judgment. Thus in sanity could be seen as being in the group with sound judgment. However I do agree that most do form the mental picture of thinking that the word insanity does mean out of sanity.

Is it not just amazing how an inspired a dictionary is? The dictionary coupled with some open eyes and an open mind can work wonders. It truly points out the inconsistencies in the thoughts of mankind.

Also I must ask who are these believers who you say, as I read your question, that do believe in, "a God that did not pre-exist"? Before I can consider your opinion I must know to whom to look and to whom you are asking me to form an opinion of.

I have read that the primary fault of mankind is lack of knowledge but I may have read wrong so you of course must form your own opinion. However if it is in fact that the cause is lack of knowledge the solution is education and not name calling again in my opinion.

I am only asking, Why not go to the root cause rather than just trying to cut off the growth? If the root remains, there is a great chance the problem will return again.

Please do give this some thought while you do smile and do have a great day.

There are several major flaws to the idea that god did not preexist.

1) Everything that has a beginning has an end. this is inevitable, so if god was created, then god can be destroyed.

2) Everything comes from something else, so if God did not preexist, then something was what makes up what god is now. That would indicate that god is not god, but something else that for the moment is god and could be something different tomorrow.

3) The energy of god is reputed to be the most powerful force in the universe, namely the creator of the universe, so where did god come from and why did god come here instead of staying there and staying all powerful.

The problem is, if God had a beginning, then he exists in time. Since time is a property of this universe, that would mean that God is therefore a particular entity in this universe. If God is inside the universe, then that requires someone or something to have created both the universe and God. Therefore, God cannot have a beginning, because God, by definition, is the creator of the universe and unbound by space and time.

god has always existed and will always exist ,you call it a a god or the whole universal energy which will keep a check on everything that has a life on this planet , even a margin of error can sometimes coz a loss oflife so man has to be always on the alert of what his thoughts and intentions are and what actions he does , though god made a difficult life he gave us the mind to choose good from bad and decide our faith in him , depends all the humanwhat path he chooses which finally dictates what is in store of him in future , so mote it be ....

Yes, My definition of god is based on reason....

If god is born, then he has to die (coz everthing which has a beginning must end,

ex : coz when particles come together, then they must also part at some time, nothing is permanent)

so god must have always existed......

god must be perfect, otherwise,

he will be under someone/things control and if he is , then he is finite, and when something is finite, it will end sometime......

Human mind is defined according to theology and philosophy

as time , space and causation........god must be beyond that coz, mind is not perfect.....

so,

god always existed......

god is perfect

god is infinite

(coz finite things end at sometime, everything finite has to end sometime)

Yes, I do see it. If God did not preexist, then who created God? That would be the question. Also, if God never preexisted, then he wouldn't seem as mighty, because his having a beginning would lead one to conclude that he was created. That would not make our God worth worshipping at all, unless the god that created God would command us to show respect to him.

SOooo you guys think it makes sense for the most powerful being in the universe to have just ALWAYS been there for NO REASON at all, but the big bang doesn't make any sense because something can't come from nothing????

God always existed, before anything else exists. He existed before time. He was always there and will always be there.

Time is just another one of God's inventions, along with space and matter and energy, and us.

Yeeeees! The insanity starts with that capital "G"