Jehovah's Witnesses and Latter Day Saints, please respond to Galations 1:8-9?

They will get back to you when they are done twisting the scriptures.

You are right the spirits that appeared to Joseph Smith, if it wasn't a all out fabrication, were not of God. There are so many Biblical problems with JW's and Mormons that both are completely incredible.

When you have a power full point to make such as you did above try letting scripture stand alone.

Nicely done...Keep up the Kingdom work.

“Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.” 2 Timothy 4:2

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Your a very wrong LDS teachings depart from the Gospels in many ways. They are to numerous to list here, I encourage you to search them out or challenge me to a email/on-line debt

First, look at te verse carefully.

But even if WE (meaning the apostles, since Paul includes himself here), or an angel from heaven (hyperbole, not meant to be taken literally), should preach a gospel contrary...

Now, as far as "gospel" being >(which is that Christ was God incarnate, was crucified for our sins, raised on the 3rd day, and that He alone provides savation through His grace by faith alone)<, this is your interpretation. While we do believe that Christ was crucified for our sins, and resurrected after three days so tat we can have eternal life, that He is "God incarnate", and that salvation comes from faith alone, are not necessarily Biblical.

>>LDS also teaches that God was a man, as was Christ, that there is no hell or punishment for sinners<<

We don't know if God was once a man, or not. He might have been. He's never said.

However, we do believe that there is a hell, where sinners go to be disciplined.

rs p. 405 pars. 1-2 Trinity ***

The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

*** rs p. 406 par. 1 Trinity ***

In The Encyclopedia Americana we read: “Christianity derived from Judaism and Judaism was strictly Unitarian [believing that God is one person]. The road which led from Jerusalem to Nicea was scarcely a straight one. Fourth century Trinitarianism did not reflect accurately early Christian teaching regarding the nature of God; it was, on the contrary, a deviation from this teaching.”—(1956), Vol. XXVII, p. 294L.

(Romans 15:3-6) . . .” 4 For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope. 5 Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant YOU to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had, 6 that with one accord YOU may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Are you glorifing the God and Father of Jesus Christ?

If you are teaching the trinity then you are quilty of teaching a different Gospel from what Jesus and the apostles taught.

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What the scripture says is true, but where did Christ ever teach the full concept of the trinity when He was alive?? He didn't!! Never once did He say that He was God. He said He was the son, that the Father was greater then He (John 13:16, John 14:28). There are a lot of other scriptures from the bible I could list, but I won't.

The gospel that we given to Joseph Smith is not different from what the bible teaches, in the way you explained it. We do believe that Christ is the Son of God. He is our savior. He atoned for our sins, died on the cross and was resurrected three days later. It is through Him we gain salvation. We do believe that there are things we have to do to show Him we accept that gift of grace. We have to repent for our sins, and try to live the way Christ would. It isn't works as most people say, but obedience to the laws that Christ set up for us.

Yes, we can all be saved, by the grace of Christ, but just believing isn't enough. We have to show Him that we are willing to accept that grace.

Here is a website that explains what we really believe. Maybe you will learn what we really believe so you can understand this a little better.

True Christians (such as Jehovah's Witnesses) have always accepted the bible as the only inspired and infallible Word of God. The Witnesses have long been comfortable using any bible translation, and they even distribute several different translations.

The bible certainly does NOT teach that Christ was "God incarnate", but rather that Christ the Son was a distinct person from God the Father.

(1 Corinthians 15:28) But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him

(1 Corinthians 11:3) I want you to know that the head of every man is the Christ; ...in turn the head of the Christ is God

(John 20:17) I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to my God and your God.

The bible certainly does NOT teach that salvation is "by faith alone".

(Hebrews 10:26-27) For if we practice sin willfully after having received the accurate knowledge of the truth, there is no longer any sacrifice for sins left, but there is a certain fearful expectation of judgment

(Hebrews 5:9) [Jesus] became responsible for everlasting salvation to all those OBEYING him

(James 2:14,17) Of what benefit is it, my brothers, if a certain one says he has faith but he does not have works? That faith cannot save him, can it? ...17 Thus, too, faith, if it does not have works, is dead in itself.

A so-called "questioner" who criticizes others for supposedly disrespecting the bible should perhaps check whether his own ideas are actually supported by Scripture.

Learn more:

http://watchtower.org/e/19991115/article_01.htm

http://watchtower.org/e/ti/index.htm?article=artic...

http://www.watchtower.org/e/19960201/article_02.ht...

You are absolutely right - according to the inspired words of the apostle Paul, anyone - even an angel - who teaches something other than what was revealed - his teaching ought to be anathema.

However, you gave a personal qualification of this scripture by saying "which is that Christ was God incarnate". The scriptures do not teach that Christ was incarnate.

If now the teaching of the Trinity (Jesus was God in the flesh) was "revealed" to the apostles and disciples in the first century, how is it that, even as acknowledged by the Catholic Encyclopedia, this doctrine of the Trinity was not assimilated into the "church" until the fourth century - long after the apostles were dead?

Hannah J Paul

Interestingly, LDS doctrine also teaches that Christ IS God, was crucified for our sins, rose on the 3rd day, and that He alone provides salvation through His grace by faith alone.

I guess I'm not sure what your point is...

(If you understood LDS doctrine, you'd see that it in no way contradicts the gospel as taught in the Bible. Hence the name of the Book of Mormon: "Another" Testament of Jesus Christ.

EDIT: Yes, LDS doctrine does include many additional truths that "mainstream" Christianity has lost. However, we do not believe that there is no "hell" or that sinners will not be punished. (I just love it when other people try to tell me what I believe! sigh...) The point is, LDS doctrine does NOT contradict the gospel as taught in the Bible. It adds to it. (And no, don't go to the Revelations verse because I can show you an identical one in Deuteronomy...)

I am a full gospel Christian and yes you are absolutely correct. When a religion proceeds to put themself above God and teach other than what God taught, they are false religion, and they are to be fleed from immiediately. So many things in the religions you mentioned that dont run along side Gods word No man knows more than God, and anyone that thinks they do will be cursed. great question. no matter how they try to rationailze it, you cant know more than God. period

I'm neither; but that's Paul's interpretation and teaching. Paul made a religion out of Jesus - it isn't what Jesus originally taught. Paul wrote Galatians, I would consider the source.

Apparently you do not know the history of your bible.

It has been heavily edited and translated by many different groups. The current contents were VOTED on.

Many gospels did not make it into the official bible, and many early Christians were punished for disagreeing with the ones that were put in.

It is all the same to me.