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Jennifer B asked in PetsFish · 1 decade ago

Stressed Goldfish?

I have a rather large goldfish that I've had for years. He's a good foot long and lives with 2 other goldfish in a 20 gallon tank. The other 2 are much smaller. The 2 small ones are looking fine, but my big guy is in bad shape. He has lost some scales and before today spent a lot of time resting on the gravel instead of his usual swimming.

He suddenly got worse today and isn't able to swim properly- does a lot of rolling to get anywhere. He has been laying sideways on the gravel in a terrible bent looking fashion, looking like he's gasping for air. I did a partial water change last night (40-50% of the water) with a new filter w/ammonia rocks in it. Today I added some salt, stress-zyme and stress-coat since he's looking so bad. I checked the water and the Nitrate/nitrite and amm is up, even though I have amm rocks in the filter. I also put some nitraban (easy balance) in there which is supposed to help with nitrate. Does anyone have any other ideas? I'd hate to loose him.

Update:

There have been no changes recently. I haven't added new fish and I know the water hasn't been contaminated by anything. I use the same bottled spring water I always use when I change the tank water, so it's not that. I haven't switched foods and the heater/filter seem to be working fine.

Update 2:

He's only about 3 years old (goldfish can live 30+ years), so he shouldn't ill because old age.

Update 3:

He made it through the night and is looking a tad better. He can now stay upward rather than rolling- he was even swimming for a while. I suspect it was from swim bladder. I have warmed the temp on the tank and plan to freeze him unthawed peas. Anyone have experience with swim bladder and can give other helpful suggestions?

Update 4:

I meant feed him unthawed frozen peas.

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  • John
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago
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    Hi Jennifer, congratulations on having such an impressive specimen-I'm sorry to hear he's not feeling well but he seriously needs to be in a much larger tank-a foot long fish living in a 20 gallon tank can do little more than tread water which is akin to a person never getting any exercise I'm wondering if this is the initial effects of stunting-when a fish is kept in a container far too small to permit much movement their internal organs will continue to grow while their body remains static. Because he has been in a 20 gallon he has reached the limit of his growth potential? Just an idea but together with the other 2 fish this a very overcrowded place & no manner of maintenance is going to keep up with the toxicity that will be created.

    Putting in a new filter has removed the good established bugs in the old one that eat the toxins so therefore possibly causing your tank to go into cycle again which is very stressful & potentially lethal. Your ammonia & nitrite readings confirm this-they should both read zero. You don't mention what type of Goldfish he is but if he's a round bodied fancy then there is a greater possibility of swim bladder disorders. I would suggest daily partial water changes of around 50% until your parameters drop to safe levels & please consider getting larger tank. If he is a streamlined fish then this is even more urgent-he will be suffering.

    I would just add that if it is not possible to get a larger tank you might consider offering him on either your local Freecycle Group or Craigs List for his own good. someone will offer to adopt him & give him the space he desperately needs.

    Best of luck to you both.

  • 1 decade ago

    The problem is simple. Your tank is WAY too small for your foot long fish. That fish is probably a single tailed common or comet and it should be about 18" long. You've stunted that fish by keeping in a very small tank. That fish should be in a 75 gallon (long) tank with a very powerful filter. Actually, this single tailed goldfish is best suited for a pond.

    The other much smaller goldfish will be ok in that small 20 gallon tank as long as they are the double tailed fancy type of goldfish. (The 20 gallon tank is the minimum size for 2 fancy goldfish only) From what you've described, the fish's internal organs are shutting down. This happens when a goldfish is forced to live in tank that is too small. The fish's organs continue to grow although the fish cannot. The result is that the fish's internal organs will fail and the fish will die.

    Sorry for being so straightforward. Unfortunately, it's very common for people to keep goldfish in tanks that are too small. Throwing medication, stress-coat, salt and other remedies are not going to help. This will only add to the stress of the fish.

    Your 20 gallon tank is severley over stocked. There is absolutely no way to keep 3 goldfish healthy in that tank. The minimum size your tank needs to be is about 125 gallons with an extremely powerful filter.

    I hope your large fish will survive. Getting a much larger tank will be the only chance for survival, however. If you can find a goldfish pond for it, that's a good option, too.

  • 1 decade ago

    a stressed out fish is not good have you added any recent changes to his enviroment?you might want to ask a vets opinion but he could just be getting old.

  • mickey
    Lv 4
    1 decade ago

    I suggest setting up a separate hospital tank and aggressively treat for infection with antibiotics.

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  • 1 decade ago

    Poor fishy. Wow, a foot! I hope everything works out. I can tell you really don't want to loose him. You seem like you're trying really hard. I hope it pays off.

  • 1 decade ago

    What happened before he got sick? Did you move him or get new fish recently?

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