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Can You Explain This?
http://sports.yahoo.com/sa/news?slug=ap-lamarathon
Headline: Russian woman making marathon debut wins Los Angeles Marathon.
Her Time: 2:29: 9
His Time: 2:13:50
Her cash award: $100K
His Cash Award: 20K and a new car.
How did this woman WIN with a longer time, and why in the name of all that's equal does she get awarded so much more?
The main point is that this is how the MEDIA sees this. They're spreading the lie that she won the race, not the truth that even though she won her division (you don't see that) she was slower than the actual winner. A second important point is that, in my mind, being equal means literal equality, yet we see this all of the time about women who can't measure up being given "paper" muscles to compete with men. I just have to ask, where is the "paper" womb for men who don't want to be parents? Where is the legal abandonment law for men who can't afford a child. Where is women's sense of fair play?
17 Answers
- Colonel RebLv 71 decade agoFavorite Answer
It's not equality. I didn't know marathons combined men and women's times. Usually they have completely separate prizes. I expect a lot of people to call for an end to the head start.
Professor- Men make more money than women because more people watch men's sports, which brings in more sponsors, which means more money for the athletes. It's not the same thing. Women's tennis players make the same money as the men most of the time, and they only play best 2 out of 3 instead of 3 out of 5. Technically, they're getting paid the same for less work. So all sports don't pay women less. The WNBA will never pay nearly the same as the NBA because nobody watches the WNBA.
Professor again, if you come back to read this- Not all men's sports pay the same either. The NFL pays a lot more than Major League Soccer, David Beckham excluded. NASCAR pays more than Indy racing. It's ad money again. Nobody complains about that.
Also most women's sports seasons are shorter than the men's so they're still not doing the same amount of work.
When I said "It's not the same thing," I really meant the gender differences weren't the same thing as the marathon issue. After re-reading my post, I can see where you made that assumption that I meant men's and women's sports weren't the same. Although in some cases they're not the same thing, see my comments about tennis and the WNBA.
I don't really support paying women athletes less for the same amount of work, but when they bring in so little ad money I really can't support paying them the same either. Ad money drives professional sports, and college/amateur sports to an extent. Athletes in sports where more advertising money goes get paid more.
Back to the original post, I don't support the marathon deal because she was said to be in the same race as the men; when she really got a head start. The article even says it was advertised as a man-vs.-woman race. It was a sham through and through. I see your point about men's and women's sports, but this isn't the same thing no matter how you look at it.
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- MeJaneLv 41 decade ago
how much was the new car. perhaps the price of the car plus the 20K totaled to the same amount as the 100K. Perhaps the woman won the same thing but instead of taking the car she decided to take the car value for it instead. Perhaps she broke the female record time and the man didn't break the male record time, and breaking the time record allows one to receive a bigger prize. You need more information in order to make an accurate analysis of the situation.
- 1 decade ago
She got a 20 minute head start. This is what qualifies as Equality according to the media. You needed to read further down the article. Yes they are giving Women a head start of 20 minutes to make it "Fair". This is the Feminist idea of equality.
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- not yetLv 71 decade ago
If you read the article carefully, they BOTH received $20K and a new car for placing first in their respective divisions.
That appears perfectly equal to me.
The $100K was some sort of additional bonus.
You'd have to contact the event organizers to explain what the bonus is for. My guess is it was related to the entertainment value of the race.
But apparently, this marketing ploy was very effective, since it is being discussed in forums like this one.
EDIT:
Excerpt:
..."The Challenge," the men-vs.-women format that gave the top female runners a lead of nearly 20 minutes over the men. The time differential was chosen by race officials in hopes of creating a close finish.
For those with poor reading comprehension - this means that "The Challenge" was a separate offer from the race organizers, presumably an attempt to increase the entertainment value of the race. I did not see the words "equality" or "level playing field" in any communication from the event planners. Those words were introduced by users in this forum, presumably to support their personal agendas.
EDIT #2: Honestly, all I see here is entertainment value, not a political comment on gender equality or lack thereof. "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." ~Freud
I remember in the 70's there was a tennis match between Billie Jean King and Bobby Riggs. It got a lot of people talking too.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
That is wrong
I am a feminist and acknowledge that women are not really comparable to men athletically. I am guessing the ones in charge of the race were ultra liberal and that was their way of making it *fair*
I dont know what to say about the difference in prizes though...absolutely flabbergasted.
- HollyLv 71 decade ago
Sorry, I dont know enough about marathons to answer your question. It doesnt seem quite right to me though. I guess they are giving women a handicap? Or maybe its got something to do with points or their qualifying times?
- 1 decade ago
I don't get that at all, I mean whats the point in competing if you know your not going to win.
- Super RuperLv 61 decade ago
I wish I could answer that. And I wish it made sense. But it doesn't. And things like this actually set the feminist movement BACK, not forward!
- atgLv 41 decade ago
There is a handicap, so to speak, for women based on lots of years of statistics, that basically declares that a man's recorded time is equal to a woman's slightly longer recorded time.
Her recorded time was probably better than the man's time in terms of the women's equivalent, so she probably got the bonus for being the overall winner of men and women combined. It's substantially more for the same reason, because she's the winner of the race.