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Jesus died for our sins?
This claim has always perplexed me and I am interested in intelligent Christian answers on the subject.
I have read the NT a few times and this is whay I have gathered:
The original sin closed the gates of heaven and it required Jesus to sacrifice himself to reopen them.
Is this correct?
If so, why? God closed the gates, why would sacrificing his son to himself make himself open his gates?
What is the mechanism at play.
I am very literal minded, so please no poetry, scripture, words with double meaning, or vague non-committal answers.
Thanks.
Rockinweazel
Thanks for stating it in terms a scientist can understand. However, you said "Because the penalty is death, someone that had NO sin had to pay the price."
Why?
Chis and Expensive troll:
You both stated a price had to be paid.
Who required that price? If it was God, and he created jesus, I don't see how this balances anything, it just moves the currency around in a circle. Like a company paying invoices to itself.
Meant to capitalize, no disrespect.
Janet
It seems like you are saying some malevolent entity had to be appeased. That's what sacrifice is. Who was the malevolent entity?
The World We Know:
Great answer, well thought out.
So, you are essentially saying that the animal sacrifices were insufficient currency to pay for the sins, so God loaned humanity an infinite amount of currency to pay off their debt to him. Right?
The only problem with all of these answers is that they are all based on the idea that there is a law higher than God. It was my understanding that Christians did not believe this or am I missing something.
I gotta go back to work. Please feel free to continue writing. I will read later.
32 Answers
- TWWKLv 51 decade agoFavorite Answer
Before a holy God, unholiness is unacceptable; sin is a serious deal - it leads to death. We, as sinners, are worthy of death.
In the Old Testament, whenever a sin was committed, animals were sacrificed; they died as a substitution for the sinner. However, this was a never-ending cycle, and did not bring people any closer to God. This divide between God and man still existed.
God bridged the gap through Jesus Christ. Jesus was holy and perfect - therefore, only He could be the perfect, atoning sacrifice that could fix the gap for good. His pure blood flowed and He died in our place - once for all sins. He took the sins of the world upon His shoulders.
Now, if we want to, we can have a relationship with God. His blood covers us and if we accept Jesus as LORD, we can come before God as "holy."
- Secre25Lv 41 decade ago
God closed the gates because man had become so sinful that he could not allow any men into Heaven. Man's sin was passed down through the generations so that man was sinful and impure from birth. So, no human, no matter how devout, was good/ pure enough to enter heaven. Christ died as a sacrifice (obviously) to remove original sin from man. He transformed his holy spirit (goodness/ power/ love/ purity) into something that all humans could share. That is why we eat/ drink the body/ blood of Christ at mass. In a sense we are taking on Christ's life essence so that we can be pure. Does that make sense?
A religious king sacrificing himself for the good of the kingdom is not a new idea, and did not begin with Christianity. Pagan religions around the world (long before the inception of Christianity) believed in the sacrifice of the king. In many of these cultures the king would be showered with gifts and treated like royalty, but later would be murdered for sacrifice. On many movies/ shows you see a play off this when the aborigines think someone is the king and fatten him intending to throw him in the volcano for sacrifice. In Greece and other Mediterranean areas the sacrifice would take place on a holiday around the time of easter when the fertility of the goddess was celebrated and eggs were painted (to symbolize fertility and the hopes for fertile farmland/ bountiful crops that are to be planted) Many people do not know this but it is definitely true.
Now I am not discounting the authenticity of Jesus Christ, actually to the contrary. There have been male martyr king figures in cultures ALL over the world. Krishna is the first example that came to mind of a very similar figure to Jesus. I have different views than most Christians, like that Jesus appears in different times and places to different people as needed. But that's me.
- 1 decade ago
well, first off i am glad that you are at least interested in the bible, God, and everything.
I have read the NT a few times and this is what I have gathered:
The original sin closed the gates of heaven and it required Jesus to sacrifice himself to reopen them.
Is this correct?
yes
If so, why? God closed the gates, why would sacrificing his son to himself make himself open his gates?
so, if you read about adam and eve, the "first man and woman" on earth, you see that they were free and had choices. they ultimately chose to disobey God and this original/first sin caused the gates of heaven to close. God hates sin and cannot bear it. Sending his son as a sacrifice was to show us that He still loves us and offers us a second chance to be with Him is heaven. Jesus' blood cleanses our sins.
So, basically, Jesus is a free gift and whoever believes that He is our savior and confesses that he/she is a sinner, they will accept the free gift and be granted the ultimate gift to go to heaven.
Hope that answers most of your questions.
If not, keep asking and finding answers. There is more than this life.
God Bless
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Adam was a perfect man so his sin and subsequent death greated a debt. God lost that perfect human life.
How could that debt ever be repaid? Not by the death of an imperfect man. How could that balance the scale? But having Jesus, who was a perfect, sinless man die as a sacrifice would set it aright.
Satan, by tempting Adam and Eve into sinning challenged God's right to rule. He said that no man would serve God if given the choice. Jesus proved that a man could and would serve God...even to the death.
How it effects us? As descendants of Adam after he was bannished from Eden. We feel the effects of that original sin. (aging, death, war and things like these) By balancing those scales, Jesus made it possible for the descendants of Adam to get out from under Adamic sin.
God created the laws, how would it look if he didn't follow his own laws? He paid the blood sacrifice and thus set aright what had been damaged by satan.
I hope that made sense!
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- 1 decade ago
God is Holy and hates sin. Can't be around it.
I've always had this picture in my head that God is like a pure white canvas. We are born like pure white canvasses, but when we sin, no matter how big or little, we get a little black spot on the canvas, and become unacceptable to God.
When Adam and Eve sinned, God made a sacrifice for them. He made them clothes out of animal hide and that was the first time death was ever in the world. He literally covered their sins with the sacrifice of that animal.
The punishment for sin is always death. In the OT, God required people to sacrifice animals. These animal's death was the substitute for the sinner's death.
The punishment for our sin is also death. Jesus became our sacrificial lamb without blemish (sin). His death is a substitute for ours. It is God's gift to us, which is why we have to accept Jesus. An unaccepted gift is of no use to anyone. I could go on about how Jesus works as the sacrifice, but I'm sure you've read about that part and others are saying it for me!
- Anonymous1 decade ago
The orginal sin close us off from that spritural relationship we were designed to have with God! In the old testament a scarfice was made to hide our sin not forgive it, then Jesus
came along he was the sacrifice for the forgiveness of our sins and now heaven was open for us. Why God did it this way "I don't know" maybe we won't fully understand until we get to heaven, but when we get there will we really care.
God loves you.....god bless
- 1 decade ago
I am gonna try and make this simple ... sometimes we read the bible and we make the interpretation harder than it should be ... In the bible in order for the people to be forgiven of there sins the great priest would sacrifice a lamb or some form of animal .. certain times of the year .. and make prayer for the people of the land that GOD would have mercy and forgive them of there sin .. it was a ritual.. When Jesus died for our sins he gave his own life as THE GREATEST sacrifice. Because the greatest sacrifice is of one who would lay down his own life for those he loves ... So with this act we children of GOD don't have to kill anymore animals in order to be forgiven the sacrifice Jesus committed was so great that GOD reopened the gates of heaven its like saying he gave us sinners in a dying world a second chance to gain heaven through this Great sacrifice ... it wasn't game GOD was playing. We humans did not deserve heaven look around you so the gates were closed for all sinners ... But when Jesus gave himself for US in our place it was an act that changed humanity forever it was a second chance that through jesus sacrifice we would gain heaven. Everytime GOD seeks to destroy the earth .. He remembers that sacrifice and that pact that was made and as soon as we open our mouths and ask for mercy through that sacrifice GOD honors our prayer and gives us a second chance to get our lives together ... its deeper than i can explain on this e-mail but be open minded and you will find your answer it was no game GOD was playing.. IT was an act of sacrifice for love of man kind ...
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Simple
do you remembered When the Jews had to sacrifice a clean lamb every Year for the forgiveness of their sin? well, it's the exact same thing!
God made a pact with Abraham, this led Israel to be his nation. A nation who was going to represent God. here on earth. That's why Jesus was born in Israel.
remember that the Law was given by God, So even God needed to Obey his own Law, so .
The Law required 2 things.
1. A clean Lamb without defect
2. a blood sacrifice.
guess what?
God obeyed his own Law, by sending his Son Jesus who is the Lamb of God, Jesus never sinned so his was clean, and he was the perfect for the sacrifice, Jesus was the only one who could do this, and by his wounds and death we now can be forgiven. This time not only for Israel, but for the Gentiles, for all of us.
do you see that God is perfect in everything he does.!
if you need more let me know
- SentinelLv 71 decade ago
God did not close Heaven to us the sinful rebellion of Adam did this, Adam was the head of the human race to come and his actions had enormous consequences for all of us, and because Adam as the first man commited sin then it required a man without sin to repair the fault.
This is why God Himself had to become man to save us because, original sin was inherited by all generations and so no human born of Adam could be sinless.
As someone once put it`` He came to pay a debt He did not owe because we owed a debt we could not pay``
- MulereinerLv 71 decade ago
God and sin do not coexist.
There is nothing that we could do ourselves to attain heaven, prior or after Jesus's cruxcifition.
God needed a sacrifice, had to be what God deemed necessary, and the sacrifice of Jesus, God in the flesh is what made a way for us to spend eternity with God.
Jesus is the intercessor, no longer is a mediator needed, we can go directly to God because of this.
God didn't close the gates, once sin began with Adam and Eve, God had to withdraw His protection, His firmament etc, due to the fact we now were sinful. We are the ones that left God, we are the ones that destroyed what He made pure and righteous.
Jesus is the one that fixed it, gave us the ability to be presented before God as sinless.