Question about Evolutionists and animal rights folk?

no idea,

I'm an evolutionist who doesn't want to save any animal, including humans.

well no, because we don't naturally wear tigers, we don't naturally go hunting something we are not going to eat. We don't naturally produce CO2 that may cause the extinction of polar bears and other animals who live in that environment.

It is not natural to hunt and stuff an animal just to set it on a wall as a trophy,

The fact is that deforrestation is not part of natural selection, so you interfere more when you destroy the habitat of a species that would not be endangered otherwise.

I know this is not the answer you wanted, but you know it is the best one

It's hardly natural selection when humans are the source of the extinction. It's already established that human technology goes beyond the realm of natural.

What I'm concerned about though is that you think that just because we understand how evolution works that we should be trying to enforce things like natural selection. I understand how bacteria and viruses work, do you think by your logic I should be spreading them as a result of this?

Animal rights is about letting animals live their own lives without human interferance. Period. That means not using animals for food, clothing, experimentation, work or entertainment. That means not using animals for <anything>. They have the right to their own lives. The animal kingdom is seen as a "separate nation."

Animal rights activists are not upset by natural extinction, but by extinction due to human meddling. "Meddling" is a sore understatement! Stopping unnatural extinction is not messin' with nature, or as you say, going against Darwin. As long as extinction of any species (flora or fauna) is NATURAL, it's fine.

that's like saying that a forest fire is an act of God and should be left to burn out. We as humans need to be accountable for our planet and the other creatures that live here. there is natural selection and then there is poaching and hunting. We humans as a species are using up all the natural resources, and no matter what God you believe in you can't think that that is ok.

Humans interfere with nature. Our species has screwed up the earth badly. Humans killing whole species with pollution and needless hunting for sport is NOT part of natural selection. That is the problem.

No. Darwin said this is how the world "is", not how it "ought" to be. (Darwin was very upset when his favourite daughter Annie died). As the philosopher Immanuel Kant said, you can't get an "ought" from an "is". Science does not have moral implications. Science is morally neutral. So evolutionists can save animals or kill them. But what would Jesus do?

Actually one of the first "animals" saved through the "animal rights folks" in New York State was a child.

http://www.americanhumane.org/site/PageServer?page...

Food for thought.

What's an Evolutionist? Is that something like a Gravitationist?

It's not that natural extinction that they're so hot about, it's human interference.