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Pandora asked in Social ScienceGender Studies · 1 decade ago

Fathers frequently invent allegations of child neglect to be awarded custody. Myth or Fact ?

This is a mirror of a question posed here:

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aup1H...

My personal opinion is that people who get involved in custody disputes may do and say all sorts of things, especially if they believe that they need to protect their children. Some will do unthinkable things just to maintain control over the partner or perhaps as payback.

My point is that I don't believe that these behaviours, when they occur, are the province of women alone. If anyone thinks they are please explain why men wouldn't also tell such lies.

Update:

Zendall I agree. I am not sure what proportion of couples in divorce get into custody disputes but I think I read a while back that it was a relatively small proportion of cases. Most I think are settled by agreements and with mediation counsellors.

I wonder then why some people need to promote the idea that this is frequent and exclusively female behaviour.

Update 2:

Oh Rebel and Kessie thanks for your responses. I can see both ideas as believable. Kessie if that is true, then women wouldn't have to lie to get custody would they - lmao.

Update 3:

Yes Mellie, that's my point. I don't think it's exclusive to either sex.

Thanks for your response.

Update 4:

GoodQ - thanks for your response. However, Parental Alienation Syndrome has no scientific basis or credibility and has been the source of untold injustices and damage to children. Links:

http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/clwood.txt

http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/contents.html

Update 5:

Tony - please research and read more widely than anti-feminist hate propaganda. Women provide the vast majority of child care so it wouldn't be surprising if they committed a greater number of child abuse crimes. However, they don't. The figures are higher for neglect by women; and active abuse by males - not all of whom are the real fathers. Possibly because real fathers are absent. Also, many of those women are raising their children in abject poverty, so charges of neglect are not unusual.

Rovale - that's an interesting observation and as I reflect on cases known to me I have to say they confirm what you've seen too.

Thanks Tony and RoV - thanks all for your comments.

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  • G
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago
    Favorite Answer

    You're exactly right. Both men AND women are liars...it's not only something women do, unlike some people around here would suggest. Men are just as likely to make up false allegations in the hopes of being awarded custody as women are.

  • 5 years ago

    Yes...there are quite a few women that do this. Don't forget physical abuse as well. It works. My ex-sister-in-law has my niece back despite the fact that it is her and her family that are being abusive/neglectful to the kids. The prosecutor's office and the CPS are so far up her butt...whatever she says must be true. Sure, the judge knows she perjured twice so far on the stand...but no bother. It's okay if an innocent man goes to jail so long as somebody is convicted. And just super if the kids are left in an abusive environment with their mother.

  • Done
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    Oh yeah - when my parents divorced we were used as leverage. My father wanted separate custody, which my mother was all for at first until she realized that she wouldn't get child support if that happened. So I say yes that this is a fact, but it can go both ways. It's not exclusive to fathers.

    People do crazy things in retaliation for feeling wronged, and unfortunately children are the pawns. It's sad.

  • 1 decade ago

    Parental Alienation...that is correct father or mother while aligned with the entire system plus, their family and the targets family against the unwilling target while lying. The child who aligns with their obsessed parent repeats the addiction until change occurs.

    In no way is PAS limited to just men or just women the false victim hood act could be either or.

    This also happens in homes where there is no divorce and is planted but should be resisted.

    EDIT: If it applies. I know, a child also knows the dif between right and wrong. Hatred towards a parent for anyone is ultimately their part in the family role gone defiant. Look at all the children who believe they were or are all being mistreated by their parents who were not being mistreated? Like I said, when it isn't true no lie can manifest itself as truth unless the person invites further trouble. Lies are vessels with holes in them - they leak despite political correctness ...code for SHUT UP and "let" the lies continue.

    Yes, I know. I warned the Father's Rights Movement concerning harboring parents who were stalking ex spouses while refusing to parent in a healthy manner in or out of the marriage. It makes no sense to me to enable a person who used and uses their children to get at the ex to continue to appear as a victim. They usually do these things within the marriage and is cause for the divorce because they are ruthless. They'll file and threaten. It doesn't have anything to do with a being a weak spouse or parent but everything to do with feelings of entitlement with no remorse while projecting....the drama is relentless when they lie to people. The system is not in any way a victim and while they enjoy the cash flow ...money can't shut people up either.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    I agree with you. Such behavior is not gender-exclusive, and I am sure men make up their share of false stories for litigious reasons. I, a divorced husband with no children, am aware of the cat-fight, telephone booth mentality with respect to divorce cases. So I can just imagine the enhanced intensity regarding custody matters. And along the way the "best interest of the child(ren) may be lost amongst the morass.

  • 1 decade ago

    I'm sure it happens that men invent neglect allegations. I've only witnessed women doing this to men, however.

    Whether it's a man or a woman, it's not hurting the other parent as much as it is the children.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Everything in which a lawyer is involved gets ugly.

    Specially if the lawyer is paid a percentage of what you will get. He/she will act like a money loving scumbag without any care for justice. After all justice is for the judge to decide.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    i've seen cases of both men and women lying to win custody cases. it's sad when revenge is more important than what's actually best for the child.

  • RoVale
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Based on what I've seen, the father fights for custody more out as a desire for revenge against the mother. He doesn't actually expect to get custody and when he does, he finds he doesn't really want the responsibility at all. He then turns the children over to his mother or another female relative to raise.

  • 1 decade ago

    Since you used the term "frequently", I have to say MYTH. I think PAS along with false accusations of sexual and physical abuse of the children and false accusations of domestic violence are more frequently the tools used by mothers even in the face of statistics by DHS that say that mothers abuse and kill children at a rate over 50% greater than fathers. Also, in spite of what some virulent feminists will have us believe, the deadbeat dad factor is mostly a myth and they by far are comprised of minimum wage earners who could barely pay the rent when the family was together. In other words, not dead-beat, but dead-broke. Look at a wanted poster showcasing these dads and tell me how many doctors and lawyers you see there.

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