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Who claims Mary isn't co-redemptrix?
Yes, Mary is a co-meaditriss and co- redeemer.
God wills, writes Richard of Lawrence, venerable Abbot of Celles, God wills that whatever good things he bestows on his creatures shoud pass through the hands of Mary.Address yourselves to the Virgin Mary, for by her and in her and with her and from her, the world receives, and is to receive, every good.
St Peter Damien remarks "That God would not beplace, that we might feel ourselves under great obligation to her; and in the second, that we might understand that the salvation of all is left to the care of this Blessed Virgin"
This is not from heretics- this is from canonized saints!
St. Germanus has said the same thing, speaking of Mary "No one is saved but through thee"
oooops that should be spelled Mediatress
18 Answers
- KateLv 71 decade ago
Well, most Catholics don't take the extreme view that you do. I'd suggest you look up the definition of mariolatry. It sounds to me as though you've crossed the line between honoring and worshipping a little. When people talk about Mary as co-redemptrix, they usually mean along with, but in a much lesser sense than Christ, seeing as she is not divine. I mean no disrespect to the Blessed Mother, naturally, but she is not part of the Trinity and the Catholic Church teaches that you can get to Christ without her help, becuase the way that she help is to help us understand Christ better. Our faith can be more complete with her help, but she is an avenue to her Son.
- crimthann69Lv 61 decade ago
Sorry, Mary is one of the lost like all the rest of humanity. Do not get me wrong she was instrumental in the world receiving every good. Just as it was said of Abraham "through you all nations will be blessed." Does that make Abraham a co-redeemer too? I am not sure how the Catholics came to revere Mary and Saints. I read the Bible and see it totally differently. If Mary was co-redeemer I think Jesus might have said something. Also, every reference to salvation is through Jesus alone. You take the word of Saints over the Holy Word?
- James OLv 71 decade ago
Mary is better described as "Cooperatrix" in that she did not fight grace but lived'Behold the handmaid of the Lord be it done to me according to your word"
Mary is not worshipped in Catholicism as a "female Christ" for Christ alone is the one Mediator and redeemer. Adoration of anyone but the Trinity is apostasy and heresy in Catholicism
Check out the Catechism of the Catholic Church"Mother in the order of grace" #967-970 that emphasizes the unique mediation of Christ
Mary is called mediatrix in VatII (Lumen Gentium 62) CCC#969 but not of all graces for Christ is emphasized as the One Mediator
Saints can make theological myistakes in "excesses of devotional hyperbole". No saint replaces the magisterium of the church and the Bible in Apostolic Tradition
Her mediation and intercession is as ours(but of higher degree and purity and intensity)is as members of the Mystical Body of Christ for Christ is the All Sufficient Sacrifice and the One and Everlasting Head of the Body and He alone is true God and true Man and the One Priest
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- arklatexratLv 61 decade ago
Mary has no divinity and should not be worshipped. She was a virtuous but ordinary woman who was given the task of being the mother of our Savior. She was only a virgin until after Jesus was born, then she and Joseph consummated their marriage and had other children.
Nowhere in the Bible does it say to worship Mary, and in fact to worship anyone other than God is sacrilege and idolatry. It sounds a lot like pagan goddess worship that somehow got incorporated into Catholicism.
She can't save, intervene, heal, etc. She was a sinner saved by grace just like the rest of us (including every Catholic pope by the way) and all of us who are believers are every bit as saved and qualified for sainthood as she was. She has no special place in heaven or in the hierarchy of the kingdom of God.
Source(s): The Holy Bible - G CLv 71 decade ago
The Bible. It says that there is but one intercessor and that is Christ. Mary was just a human and does not know the mind of God as Christ does. He is on the right hand of God with all authority. Mary had other children, died and was buried. She is simply physical, like you and me.
- WolfeblaydeLv 71 decade ago
I can tell you from 2 years' worth of experience on this Forum that there is absolutely NO point in trying to explain allegory, mysticism, and Catholic symbolism to fundamentalists and evangelicals. In many ways, it takes a Catholic mind-set and education to understand the subtleties of doctrines like Co-redemptrix and Mediatrix of all graces.
Sadly, the average fundamentalist is about as capable of understanding these things as a newborn would be of comprehending a nuclear physics text. That's why I don't bother bringing these subjects up in this Forum. Those who can understand these concepts are already familiar with them, and those who are incapable of understanding them ignorantly try to use them as a weapon to bludgeon Catholics.
Peace be with you.
Source(s): Catholic convert - Gods childLv 61 decade ago
There is a reason God had put her at the beginning and the end of the Bible
- Anonymous1 decade ago
Chris should know he belongs to one of those cults
by the way Chris I hear you added a propeller hat to your tin foil hat...to keep the aliens away ....
- Anonymous1 decade ago
It's unfortunate, at least to me, that the quotes you use seem to go beyond my ability to follow. "No one is saved but through thee" This one particularly troubles me. It seems to imply that there in order to get to the Father, I must go through Mary. Yet Jesus said "no man comes to the Father but by me." He makes no mention of needing to go through Mary. I'm struggling to overcome my prejudices and think through this sympathetically. But the nuanced 'official' Vatican position keeps being put in question by quotes like those you use. I'm determined, however, to persevere. By God's grace I pray to come to the truth in this matter. But for now I remain unconvinced.
peace
- ?Lv 71 decade ago
Anyone that places anyone except Jesus Christ between God and sinful man is a heretic- canonized or not. Being a canonized saint only makes one a catholic- and nothing else.