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Bible Only Christians - Are you or your Pastor infallible?
To Bible-Only Christians who believe in the following principles of "Sola Scriptura" or bible alone....
To those who believe:
-- Each person has the right and duty to interpret scripture on their own, and should not follow the interpretation of MAN.
-- If you are a Christian and pray to the Holy Spirit to help you interpret the bible, the Holy Spirit will reveal to you the CORRECT interpretation/meaning of scripture
-- All Christian teaching, beliefs, and examples are in the bible, alone.
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To those who believe that a question regarding interpretation?
How do you KNOW you are interpreting the bible correctly and not letting some or maybe a lot of your PERSONAL biases and sinful nature lead you to incorrect Interpretations of scripture? Anotherwards, how can you be SURE you are correct, in light of differing interpretations of Scripture. Example: verses Catholic teachings based on scripture?
If 2 Christians differ on interpretation/meaning, and BOTH prayed and supposedly received revelation/help from the Holy Spirit, how do they stay as "one universal church" or anotherwards NOT break apart over the division?
How can you be sure your Pastor is right, verses the pastor across town (or in another state, etc.) who has a different take on things?
IF you are insistent that your interpretation, your pastors, or your church is right and the Catholic church is wrong, how can you be sure? By who's authority do you have to say that? How can you be sure that the Catholic church isn't right and your interpretation is wrong.
Just curious.
To me, Sola Scriptura and individual interpretation SOUNDS good on the surface, but it leads to everyone being an authority, great division within Christianity and everyone thinking THEIR way is the RIGHT way.. kinda like they are infallible. So instead of having 1 infallible office or position, we have 38,000 infallible churches registered thru the IRS in the US, alone. Everyone bashing each other, thinking they are right and everyone else is wrong.
Seems arrogant.
Sorry if that offends, Just curious.
Lebron#39 - your posting is what I am talking about when I say "arrogance" you seem to be making lots of "I" statements" like:
I have the Sprit of God. That is my authority.....I have the authority given to me by God through his Son and through his Holy Spirit.
...But I practice christianity. .....I pray that I let it guide me into all truth so that I will not fall away.
Keep tellin' yourself that. Must be lonely at the top, only person who is RIGHT all the time.
WOW!
h'ayim tovim Y'all -- your answer, doesn't address the issue, but is none the less a nice sediment, but not really on topic, exactly.
Thanks for participating, though
hehehehehe
Catholic Defender and Chelz - Thank you, but I wish more people actually dug into the issue and answered my question.
Fireball -- Nicely side stepping the question. YES, the TRUTH is what matters, but I bet YOUR truth and MY Truth differ.
I can assure you I've prayed to God ALOT to help me interpret the bible, and the "Truth" I received from it is DRASTICALLY different from yours.
So how do you propose we resolve that? How can you say I'm wrong?, as many Christians who believe in the doctrine of Sola Scriptura DUE. ?? huh?
15 Answers
- ?Lv 61 decade ago
Here are my thoughts.
I'm fallible. My pastor is fallible. All men are fallible.
I also think that prayer could be misleading as well. If we go that route, we need to test the spirit that gave us the answer and it also needs to match scripture and reality.
If my pastor or others teach me something, it needs to match scripture and reality as well.
The main concepts of the Bible are so plain and simple a preschooler can understand.
The Bible is also so deep that it would take many lifetimes to uncover all of the truths.
I'm finding that the Bible does a great job interpreting itself! I'm also finding that people over the years have done a good job cross referencing the Bible with itself. My lifetime is limited. Together, all searching the scriptures, we can learn more about it than individually.
Beyond that though, the Bible is a love letter from God to us. It is living and active. We can slice and dice all of the facts of the Bible and miss what God is trying to say to me personally. The Holy Spirit points out how I should live and what God wants to do in my life. That's what I really want anyway. I want to know Him. I want to please Him.
- 1 decade ago
Well, the real important thing before anyone goes about trying to interpret the bible is understand the center concept as a whole. That is that Christ died for us as a perfect sacrifice so that we wouldnt need anyone like a priest or pastor to ask forgiveness of our sins for us but we ourselves can pray to God for forgiveness. Christ said that he is the way, the truth and the light and no one can enter heaven but through him, meaning that if you have faith in his sacrifice for mankind and his ressurrection then you will have eternal life.
- Anonymous1 decade ago
The word of God is not up for interpretation. St.Peter said that.
Scripture means one thing, and one thing only. That is a grievous evil to have an " opinion" about what a scripture means. Christians need to agree on scripture, otherwise the church of God is divided and broken. Those who are truly from God, will save themselves from such evil.
A people divided will only lead themselves to desolation.
What I say is true, the Christian religion is dying, people are turning away from God because of the church's division. There are church's representing God, in which hold a false teaching, If you teach a person false things, they will grow bitter towards God in general; It is " you" who teach deceit that destroy the church of God. The danger of wrong interpretations run deep like the water in the ocean. If you go deep enough with lies, they will crush those who follow those lies.
There should be no division among Christians, everyone who loves God should work to be at peace with all, as much as possible especially their brothers,sisters in Christ. Those who share the word of God should speak without fear, because if what you say is true, it will accomplish all that God has sent it for; that is God's promise to those who share the " Good News"
God desires all people to come to him, because his love and mercy reaches far beyond this earth human beings live on. His desire is that everyone accept his son Jesus as their savior. He does not desire for his children to be divided, for such is the evil of Cain slaying his brother. It is the same, a church that is divided, will murder with the lies it sows.
God Bless you all.
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- Anonymous1 decade ago
The Word and Will of God may NOT be imposed upon any one... The Word and Will of God for man-kind is only binding upon those in willing submission to God.... so... if a True Christian "interprets" a certain way... that is between God and them... They MAY NOT impose their interpretation upon any one... if they do so ... they are in violation of God's Word and are, in fact, NOT of The True Christian Faith.
Source(s): God's promise to me in the instant of my Salvation. - 1 decade ago
no.neither i,nor those who lead me are infallible.but i believe bible is inspired word of god,and god is infallible.First understand your pope and your catholic priests are fallible humans like every other person on this earth including all prots.Catholic church was born in 4th century when constantine forcibly imposed christianity as the state religion.Majority of his empire at that time were pagans.Since they couldn't part with their pagan practices they 'christianized' their old pagan practices.Result was intercession to saints and use of images and statues in prayer and worship.But some groups like followers of mani(a 2nd century persian apostle of jesus),celtic keldees,paulicians,bogomils,cathars,wald... remained true christians until protestant revolution.But your 'church' called them 'heretics' and persecuted and killed them.Through protestant revolution masses came to know of catholic idolatry.today protestants number around 900 million .All who do idolatry will burn in lake of fire and sulfur eternally,your idolatry is all the more severe,since it was in the name of christ.To all catholics TURN or burn in lake of fire and sulfur eternally.I don't want to condemn you or make you fearful,but what i said is true.
Source(s): thegodschurch.blogspot.com - lebron'scloneLv 41 decade ago
I have the Sprit of God. That is my authority. I have the authority to rebuke powerful spiritual beings who come against me to harm me. I have the authority given to me by God through his Son and through his Holy Spirit.
He will guide me in all truth. Its funny that I reject Mormon, Catholic, Islam, and all other false religions. But I practice christianity. How can this be? The Spirit of God has been poured out on me like he promised. I pray that I let it guide me into all truth so that I will not fall away.
- 1 decade ago
First, I strongly believe you are attempting to support the catholic catechism.
Allow me the privilege of using Scripture alone to answer your questions without any special interpretation:
1. Regarding infallibility. There isn't a human alive, nor has there been in the past, nor will there be in the future who is infallible. However, the catholic catechism clearly states in paragraph 891 that the Pope is infallible when interpreting Scripture for teaching (doctrine): "891: The Roman Pontiff, head of the college of bishops, enjoys this infallibility in virtue of his office, when, as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful - who confirms his brethren in the faith he proclaims by a definitive act a doctrine pertaining to faith or morals. . ." If anyone wants to say that the pope is perfect and without error when interpreting Scripture and forming doctrine through divine intervention, why can't I say the same about myself? After all, I did graduate from Seminary with a Master's Degree, I am a missionary, a teacher, a pastor, an evangelist, and a chaplain. However, the pope and other catholics might believe the pope is closer to God than I am. Yet, we read in the book of Hebrews that every Christian has direct access to God: "Therefore let us draw near with confidence to the throne of grace, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help in time of need." (Heb 4:16). Or perhaps they may think the pope is a more important Christian because he is the pope, yet we read in the letter to the Philippians that we should, "...with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves." (Phil 2:3). And what about becoming experts in the Scriptures? How can we become experts in Scripture without interpreting it? In 2 Timothy 2:14, we are told to "Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth." Hmmm, "rightly dividing the word of truth." Rightly interpreting the word of truth sounds pretty good, unless we believe Paul was thinking about a pretty sharp knife. Now, some may say, that this was written to Timothy as a pastor. Well, if that's the case, am I not a pastor? Also, we must ignore 2 Timothy 3:16, " All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work. Aren't all Christians men of God? By the help of the Holy Spirit, we can understand and rightly divide the word of truth, so that we can become mature Christians (1 Peter 2:2). My point is: why do you doubt protestant ministers who interpret Scripture and not the long history of popes since the 4th century? Especially when nothing is mentioned in Scripture about the pope. Peter was identified as an apostle and a church leader of the church in Jerusalem only, and equal in power to the other church leaders and apostles. If this is not true, why did Paul, in front of everyone, scold him about being a hypocrite. Read Galatians 2:10-15 for details. Lastly, Jesus himself said that there is no one good except God. "...no one is good except God alone." (Luke 18:19). So, again, who is to say the pope is better qualified to interpret Scripture than anyone else?
Allow me to leave you with a thought: Jesus said, “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. For I have come to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law." Is this pretty straight-forward language or do we need "divine revelation" to understand it? You be the judge. :)
- Anonymous1 decade ago
First understand pope and your catholic priests are fallible humans like every other person on this earth including all prots.Catholic church was born in 4th century when constantine forcibly imposed christianity as the state religion.Majority of his empire at that time were pagans.Since they couldn't part with their pagan practices they 'christianized' their old pagan practices.Result was intercession to saints and use of images and statues in prayer and worship.But some groups like followers of mani(a 2nd century persian apostle of jesus),celtic keldees,paulicians,bogomils,cathars,waldensians remained true christians until protestant revolution.But your 'church' called them 'heretics' and persecuted and killed them.Through protestant revolution masses came to know of catholic idolatry .All who do idolatry will burn in lake of fire and sulfur eternally,your idolatry is all the more severe,since it was in the name of christ.To all catholics TURN or burn in lake of fire and sulfur eternally.I don't want to condemn you or make you fearful,but what i said is true.
Source(s): thegodschurch.blogspot.com - kiowarose777Lv 61 decade ago
Bible only Christians?
Isn't that like Christians for Jesus only?
What's up with that?
Source(s): Why the thumbs down? Is it easier to judge and disapprove than to answer the question? Aren't all Christians Bible believing Christians? Doesn't those who dont, not be Christians? I honestly want to know.