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If Jesus was risen out of Nazareth why didn't the Old Testament prophets prophesy about that place existing?
According to Christian theology. Jesus is foretold of being raised from a place in Israel known as Nazareth.
Its found in many gospel scriptures such as :
Luke1:26,27, Luke 2:3,4, Matthew 2:22,23, Luke 2:39,40.
But when one reads the "Old Testament" their is no such place known as Nazareth mentioned. The prophets of the Old Testament never spoke or even mentioned a such place existing.
So where did this place "Nazareth" come from?
13 Answers
- Anonymous1 decade agoFavorite Answer
answer: another mistranslation?
Matthew 2:23 − “And he (Jesus) came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets”
Which prophets said that?
According to scholars, rabbis and historians, the city of Nazareth did not exist during the writings of Hebrew Scriptures.
The word “Nazareth” does not appear anywhere in Hebrew Scriptures. This is even verified by the New Testament Concordance!
Therefore, Nazareth and Nazarene are Christian words, not Hebrew words. Nazareth is not mentioned in non-Christian sources until the third or fourth century.
Nazarites is not a sect. but rather it is an individual oath taken by a person to be in effect for a time period. During this time the person is not allowed to cut their hair, go near a corpse, eat grapes or drink wine. Afterward he must bring special offerings to the Beith Hamikdash and shave his hair.
- DgnosticLv 51 decade ago
It is simple, Nazareth did not exist until about 400A.D. It is never mention in the Old Testament, It was never mentioned by Josephus in any of his writings. Nor was it mentioned by Philo or Pliny. Josephus participated in the Jewish wars and listed towns villages and hamlets of all kinds. It never appears on any of the Roman maps at the time. The Romans maps were exhaustive as it was vital to them controlling their empire. There has never been any archaeological evidence found to support the conclusion that there was a chance that Nazareth existed at the time of Christ.
This is another example of Christians trying to manipulate the facts to try to make them fit into the Christian scheme of things. The fact is that Jesus could have well been a member of the Essenes branch of Judaism known as the Nazareans or northern Essenes. The Church at Rome wished to conceal this as that the Nazareans had many practices that were in opposition to those accepted by Rome. The Nazareans were vegetarians, did not believe in or practice slavery, they maintained the Jewish Sabbath, still viewed themselves first as Jews, women were considered equal to men and could become priestess, and etc..
Source(s): The Jesus Police website, the Essene way Seminary, The School of prophets. - Anonymous5 years ago
The record of Jesus’ early life is very brief. Born in Bethlehem of Judea, King David’s native city, he was taken to Nazareth in Galilee after the family returned from Egypt—all of this in fulfillment of divine prophecy. Jesus’ adoptive father, Joseph, was a carpenter and evidently of little means.Thus Jesus, who on his first day of human life had slept in a stable, evidently spent his childhood in quite humble circumstances. Nazareth was not historically prominent, though near to two principal trade routes. It may have been looked down upon by many Jews. In the prophecy concerning the Messiah’s birth, the names are combined as “Bethlehem Ephrathah.” (Mic 5:2) In view of this it appears that the reference to Ephrathah in Psalm 132:6, which deals with David’s concern for the ark of the covenant, also applies to this hometown of David.
- ErnieLv 71 decade ago
He was born in Bethlehem, not Nazareth. Joseph and Mary moved back to Nazareth from Egypt, in fear of the new king in Judea. Nazareth may not have been a city in the Old Testament. Micah 5:2 is the only specific reference to Jesus in the OT, mentioning Bethlehem by name.
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- rapturefutureLv 71 decade ago
Wikipedia says -
Earliest history
Archaeological research has revealed a funerary and cult center at Kfar HaHoresh, about two miles (3 km) from Nazareth, dating back roughly 9000 years (to what is known as the Pre-Pottery Neolithic B era).[6] The remains of some 65 individuals were found, buried under huge horizontal headstone structures, some of which consisted of up to 3 tons of locally-produced white plaster. Decorated human skulls uncovered there have led archaeologists to believe that Kfar HaHoresh was a major cult centre in that remote era.[7]
In 1620 the Catholic Church purchased an area in the Nazareth basin measuring approx. 100m x 150m. on the side of the hill known as the Nebi Sa'in. This "Venerated Area" underwent extensive excavation in 1955-65 by the Franciscan priest Belarmino Bagatti, "Director of Christian Archaeology." Fr. Bagatti has been the principal archaeologist at Nazareth. His book, "Excavations in Nazareth" (1969) is still the standard reference for the archaeology of the settlement, and is based on excavations at the Franciscan Venerated Area.
Fr. Bagatti uncovered pottery dating from the Middle Bronze Age (2200 to 1500 BC) and ceramics, silos and grinding mills from the Iron Age (1500 to 586 BC). Thus, there is no doubt that a substantial settlement existed in the Nazareth basin during those eras. However, lack of archaeological evidence from Assyrian, Babylonian, Persian, Hellenistic or Early Roman times, at least in the major excavations between 1955 and 1990, shows that the settlement apparently came to an abrupt end about 720 BCE, when many towns in the area were destroyed by the Assyrians
- ?Lv 51 decade ago
Nazareth is a real place in Galilee. It was the home of Jesus' parents. Jesus was born in Bethlehem as prophesied and raised in Nazareth as prophesied.
Situated inside a bowl atop the Nazareth ridge north of the Jezreel valley, Nazareth was a relatively isolated village in the time of Jesus with a population less than two hundred.
Very little is known about Nazareth from the ancient sources. Outside of the New Testament, Nazareth is never mentioned until the Byzantine period (4th c. A.D.). Archaeological excavations have confirmed that the city was only a small agricultural village during the Hellenistic and Roman periods (http://www.bibleplaces.com/nazareth.htm).
The small town in Galilee where Jesus spent his childhood and youth. It is not mentioned in the OT although excavations have shown settlement in the area from the Bronze Age, and tombs from the Iron Age down to the Hasmonean period. Joseph and Mary lived there after their betrothal and the annunciation of Jesus' birth came to Mary in Nazareth (Luke 1:26).
Joseph may have moved his family there (Matt 2:23) because of the availability of carpentry work in the vicinity as Herod Antipas was building a Hellenistic city, Sepphoris, 7 miles (11 km) away. Although a small town, Nazareth lay on the Roman road to Jerusalem and thus had good communications with the larger world outside. Here Jesus grew up; from here he left for his baptism (Mark 1:9); he returned to Nazareth before going forth to preach (Matt 4:13). However, when attempting to preach his message in his home town, he was violently rejected and left Nazareth to make his center in Capernaum (Matt 13:54-58; Mark 6:1-6; Luke 4:16-30).
There is no mention of his having returned to the town, but he remained associated with it (Matt 21:11) and was called "Nazarene', a little subsequent applied to his followers (Acts 24:5). In Jesus' time the town had a synagogue (Luke 4:16) and Jews were living there after the destruction of the Second Temple. Eusebius mentions a small village called Nazareth in the 4th century A.D. Its first church was built there in the time of Constantine (Bible Guide: Nazareth).
There is no direct Old Testament citation that prophesies the Messiah would be called a Nazarene. In fact, Nazareth (approx 1800 people at the time of Christ) is not mentioned anywhere in the Old Testament or in the apocrypha. But, we have two possible explanations:
First, Matthew does not say 'prophet', singular. He says 'prophets', plural. It could be that Matthew was referring to several Old Testament references to the despised character of Jesus (i.e., Psalm 22:6, 13; 69:10; Isaiah 49:7; 53:3; Micah 5:1). Nazareth held the Roman garrison for the northern areas of Galilee.1 Therefore, the Jews would have little to do with this place and largely despised it. Perhaps this is why it says in John 1:46, "And Nathanael said to him, 'Can any good thing come out of Nazareth?' Philip said to him, 'Come and see.'" So, it could be a reference not to an actual location, but the maligned character of the Messiah even as Nazareth was maligned for housing the Roman garrison, and Matthew was using it in reference to the implied hatred of Christ.
Second, there could be a play on words that Matthew was referring to. In Isaiah 11:1 it says, "Then a shoot will spring from the stem of Jesse, and a branch from his roots will bear fruit. In Hebrew, the word for "branch" is netzer, "NZR" which letters are included in NaZaReth. It seems that Matthew was referring to the branch, the Nazarene, in turn a reference to God's raising up of the Messiah. Clearly, Matthew was not exegeting Isaiah, but it seems he was referring to the Branch.2 (Did the OT prophesy Jesus coming from Nazareth?).
- whitehorse456Lv 51 decade ago
The Holy Spirit is what testifies that Christ is the one of whom it was written. The church leaders 2,000 years ago also questioned whether the Savior could come from Nazareth (or more specifically Galilee). But the Holy Spirit revealed the truth...
As it is written:
37On the last and greatest day of the Feast, Jesus stood and said in a loud voice, "If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink. 38Whoever believes in me, as[c] the Scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him." 39By this he meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in him were later to receive. Up to that time the Spirit had not been given, since Jesus had not yet been glorified.
40On hearing his words, some of the people said, "Surely this man is the Prophet."
41Others said, "He is the Christ."
Still others asked, "How can the Christ come from Galilee? 42Does not the Scripture say that the Christ will come from David's family[d] and from Bethlehem, the town where David lived?" 43Thus the people were divided because of Jesus.
...
50Nicodemus, who had gone to Jesus earlier and who was one of their own number, asked, 51"Does our law condemn anyone without first hearing him to find out what he is doing?"
52They replied, "Are you from Galilee, too? Look into it, and you will find that a prophet[e] does not come out of Galilee."
- HAYAHLv 71 decade ago
Even though it was a 400 year gap between the Old and New, don't you think there would be changes in names of towns and cities by then?
Galilee, Bethlehem.
Acts 22:8.
Numbers 6.
Judge 13: 5,7...Samson was an example of how a baby was to brought-up to be a Nazarene.
- jrroseLv 61 decade ago
Because Nazareth didn't even exist at that time.
Also, the NT states that Jesus was from Nazareth, but also states that Jesus was born in Bethlehem, but also states that Jesus was from Galilee.
So, which is it?
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- Michael KLv 71 decade ago
Because a lot of the Bible was written and edited by committee. A lot of it was written after the fact or written by a mixture of different myths.