If something WAS, and has not changed, is it STILL?

Your question is confusing but the answer is probably. But in the case of the Catholic Church unnecessary.

The Catholic Church was, is, and always shall be Christian.

Most non-Catholic Christian denominations accept Catholics as Christians. A very few do not.

The World Council of Churches which brings together more than 340 churches, denominations and church fellowships in over 100 countries and territories throughout the world, representing some 550 million Christians accepts the 1.1 billion Catholics as Christians. http://wcc-coe.org/wcc/who/faq-e.html#07

A dictionary would say that a Christian is someone professing belief in Jesus as Christ or following the religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus.

Catholics would fit this definition.

In the Nicene creed, from 325 C.E., Catholics profess:

We believe in one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, God from God, Light from Light, true God from true God, begotten, not made, one in being with the Father.

Through Him all things were made.

For us and our salvation He came down from heaven: by the power of the Holy Spirit, He was born of the Virgin Mary, and became man.

For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate; He suffered, died, and was buried.

On the third day He rose again in fulfillment of the scriptures: He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.

He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead, and his kingdom will have no end.

We accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior. We are baptized as Jesus commanded in Matthew 28:19, "in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."

We truly are spiritually "born again," we just don't usually use those words.

For a complete description of what Catholics believe, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/index.shtml

With love in Christ.

IT’S ALL ABOUT DE FIDE (core) DOCTRINE

It wasn’t Protestants that changed. It was the Doctrine of the Catholic Church which was changed. That makes it a new church--it joined with Protestantism. With a new doctrine it became liberal, or a/k/a ecumenical christianity. No longer the One Holy Catholic, and Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ of Nazareth Outside of Which There is No Salvation.

The proof of who changed is held in the Encyclicals of 260 popes, a few below. The Catholic Church cannot change. What changed was the Vatican 2 Church, i.e., those members who departed but kept the 'catholic' term, but who gradually came to believe a new doctrine, “all are saved,” false ecumenism. No, it is not “STILL” even though those same members once “WERE.” The word for those who deny Christ’s Salvific message is "apostate." That includes up to and including the "highest chair."

Denial of just one de fide Doctrine grants one a ticket to heresy. Heresy grants the anathema of the holy Apostles, Ss. Peter and Paul.

Proof of the change? Denial of QUO PRIMUM.

traditionalMASS.org

gerrymatatics.org, internationalbiblicalfoundations.org

Hutton Gibson.org

William F. Strojie,. Last Days of the Catholic Church. 1976

The Reign Of Antichrist, Rev. R. Gerald Culleton

The Apocalypse of the Mass, Rev. Paul Trinchard, S.T.L. 1999

Discourses on the Latter Days, Fr. Henry Coleridge, S.J. 1883

sedevacantist.org papal documents

POPES who supply the unchangeability of the Church.

Pius XII--41 Encyclicals

Pius XI---31 Encyclicals

Benedict XV--12 Encyclicals

St. Pius X--17 Encyclicals

Leo XIII--83 Encyclicals

Ven. Pius IX--40 Encyclicals

Gregory XVI--10 Encyclicals

Pius VIII, 1829--1830 Traditi umilitati--

Leo XII Sept. 28, 1823 - Feb. 10, 1829

1. Charitate Christi December 25, 1825

2. Quod Hoc Ineunte May 24, 1824

3. Ubi Primum May 5, 1824

Pius VII Mar. 14, 1800 - Aug. 20, 1823

1. Diu Satis May 15, 1800

2. Post Tam Diuturnas 29th April, 1814

Pius VI, 1775--1799

1. Charitas April 13, 1791

2. Inscrutabile December 25, 1775

Clement XIV, 1769--1774

1. C+m Summi December 12, 1769

2. Decet Quam Maxime September 21, 1769

3. Inscrutabili Divinae Sapientiae December 12, 1769

4. Salutis Nostrae April 30, 1774

Clement XIII 1758--1769

1. A Quo Die September 13, 1758

2. Appetente Sacro December 20, 1759

3. Christianae Reipublicae November 25, 1766

4. C+m Primum September 17, 1759

5. In Dominico Agro June 14, 1761

6. Summa Quae January 6, 1768

Benedict XIV Aug. 17, 1740 - May 3, 1758

1. A Quo Primum June 14, 1751

2. Allatae Sunt July 26, 1755

3. Apostolica Constitutio June 26, 1749,

4. C+m Religiosi June 26, 1754

5. Ex Quo March 1, 1756

6. Magnae Nobis June 29, 1748

7. Nimiam Licentiam May 18, 1743

8. Peregrinantes May 5, 1749

9. Quanta Cura June 30, 1741

10. Quod Provinciale August 1, 1754

11. Ubi Primum December 3, 1740 [latin only]

12. Vix Pervenit November 1, 1745

Clement XI, 1700--1721* Unigenitus,1713 Sec. 2

Bl. Innocent XI, 1676-1689

* Coelestis Pastor, 1687 [Apostolic Constitution]

* Sollicitudo pastoralis 1679 [Motu Proprio]

Sixtus VTriumphantis Hierusalem 1588

St. Pius V, 1566-1572* Quo Primum, 1570 [Apos.Const.]

.Consueverunt Romani September 17, 1569

Paul IV, * C+m ex Apostolatus Officio

Paul III, 1534--1549 Sublimus Dei

Leo X , 1513--1521* Exsurge Domine June 15, 1520]

Martin V, * Ad Evitanda Scandala 1418

Benedict XII, 1334--1342 * Benedictus Deus 1336

Clement V, June 5, 1305 - Apr. 20, 1314

* Exivi De Paradiso May 6, 1312

Boniface VIII, 1294--1303 * Unam Sanctam, 1302

Gregory X, 1271--1276, Protection Of The Jews, 1272

Innocent IV, June 25, 1243 - Dec. 7, 1254

* Quae Honorem Conditoris Omnium,1247

Nicholas III, Exiit Qui Seminat August 14, 1279

Gregory IX, 1227--1241* Mira Circa Nos, 1228

Honorious III, Aug. 31, 1216 - Mar 18, 1227

Catholicism is a denomination of Christianity. The Catholic church is Christian, and has always been Christian.

Anyone who claims it isn't is either ignorant or a troll.

if something was, and never changed than it is still unless the definition has changed, but then only the description of the thing has changed. the thing itself is as you stated in your question not changed.

what would be your answer if you asked : if a definition once was , and has not changed, then can a thing that once satisfied that definition, fails to satisfy that definition later ?

of course ... if the thing has changed.

clearly a definition is "something". the way you ask the question forces your answer.

RELIGIOUSLY - If something can be shown to be 1 thing, in the past, and there isn't evidence that it has changed... isn't it still that same thing it was in the past?

Confusing.. I know. Let me get to the point.

Religiously you are confusing. What you said is a fact. It is the same thing as it was.

It changes not basically but apparently. a dreamer apparently changes himself in his dream but remains basically same as a waker!

Others are confusing with contradicting doctrines.

Catholics are Christians. Some people just don't bother to find out where their church came from.

The book of Acts is the closest thing to describing what Christian faith should be about. The criteria is 'sola scriptura'.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sola_scriptura

http://www.bible-researcher.com/biblical-interpret...

Uh... Right... I'm not really sure what you're talking about but I'm going with the answer of 27...

The buy-bull has not changed and that is why it is irrelevant.