Rangers and SF advice desperatly needed?

FIRST....I am a Ranger.....I am also Special Forces.....

SECOND... You already accepted that you will fail SF..... so you probably will.... Special Forces wants people who do not accept failure..... you run till you drop; then crawl till you pass out BUT THEY NEVER QUIT..... they never even "think" about quitting... you would probably fail Rangers too.

THIRD When you fail....You would probably end up in the 82d Abn Div.... which ain't garbage..... later you can re-apply ..... or go for the "gold ring" and apply for Delta..... of course with your attitude you definitely would fail that ..... it is harder than Special Forces and the Rangers

FOURTH While the Ranger Regiment is the best at what they do..... for a LOT of reasons I think it is a bad choice and NOT the best route to Special Forces.

FINALLY.... You do not have to pray.....you have to work.....to win....

Change your attitude and GO X-RAY.... Old paratrooper saying," If you hesitate...someone will kick your @ss out the door"...... stop over thinking it and DO IT

The 18X enlistment option is enticing, the only thing is, there has to be a high rate of people that don't pass. Active duty soldiers that make it to SF school often don't make it, and they for the most part have been doing the Army thing for a few years. I'm not sure about Ranger school, maybe you can enlist with the school as a bonus, but I'm sure there is no guarantee or automatic acceptance into becoming a Ranger.

The good thing, is that SF and Ranger schools are open to all MOS's. From Infantry to Cook. The SF school was actually more available than Ranger school at the duty station I was at (Fort Drum). The guy I know that went to the school was a Fueler, he didn't make it though. He claimed because he missed the time for completing the Ruck March.

Honestly, if you think you could be in the top 1% of the Army before BCT then go for 18X enlistment. If not, choose an MOS that you want and prepare your mind and body for either SF or Ranger. If you excel as a soldier the schools will be available.

Basically all you have to do if they don't have any slots open for you is to make sure you go to Airborne school. Once you do that, you can go to selection as long as you make the grade. As far as being a Ranger and "moving up" to SF. I wouldn't say that too loud around an actual Ranger. They don't look up to the SF at all. There are some that do go to the SF because of the different mission and tactics but it's not because they're better. If you do decide to go into the Rangers before SF, make sure you leave the "moving up" opinion behind. If you don't, you'll wish you had.

First of all you had better erase the thought of "If I don't make it" or you wont make it.. If you enlist as an 18x you will get the chance to try out, you may or may not get accepted but you will get a chance. I believe you must be an E-4 BEFORE YOU CAN TRY OUT BUT NOT SURE.

Best advice to you is get in the best physical shape you can get into but most of all you must have be in a very strong mental shape. You can never question your reason for wanting to be a green beanie.

Many are called but only a few are chosen.

Good Luck to you.

Mostly all of the SF dudes are Ranger trained. In fact I think they all got to go thru the school anyway. Go S.F. and dont fail! Mental strength is the key. The mind is stronger than the body. Tell yourself that the only thing that can make you quit is death. You can go SF and make it. Or you can go 11b and hope to be sent to Ranger school then go thru selection for SF. Maturity is the key when going straight thru to selection from basic. If you fail to become 18x straight outta basic then you become a 11b. Try to get stationed with a airborne unit or with a unit that is stationed at the same Ft as a SF group.

Good Luck.

I would find a recruiting station with a 11b, Ranger or a old SF dude as a recruiter.

1. Most 18X recruits fail to meet the standards. They typically end up going straight Infantry. So wait, you just called the U.S. Army Infantry garbage??

Seriously???

Just stop right there. I won't even get into what's wrong with the rest of your question.

Pay attention to Kojak.He knows well what he's saying.