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Atheists...do you believe in science and reasoning?

If so, do you belive in quantum theory?

There is a theory in quantum mechanics that says for every possibility there is a quantum reality that exists as a result.

So wouldn't it stand to reason, based on that scientific idea, that if there is the possibility of a god that there is the reality of god?

If not, why?

Update:

One poster says "there is no possibility". Why?

Based on our limited knowledge, how can you say there is absolutely no possibility?

Update 2:

I'm not religious by the way. I'm just open minded.

Update 3:

I'm not saying I understand quantum mechanics anymore than you guys are saying you understand the inner workings of everything in exsistance.

After all, "I don't know" is the first step towards wisdom...which is pretty lacking in all of your responses.

Update 4:

It just sounds like no one even entertains this...too many know-it-alls with their cups overflowing I guess. Fun to hear such firm beliefs though...almost akin to faith itself.

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  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago
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    ok.. so lets assume there is a reality with a god, according to this theory, there would also be other realities with no god. so... the god in the reality that does have gods is not omnipresent, and if he is not omnipresent then he is also not omnipotent as there is something he cant do, namely, govern the reality with no god. and thus it also stands to reason that said god is not omniscient either, as it would have no idea what is going on in the godless reality. so, not omnipotent, not omniscient, not omnipresent and thus ultimately not a god, just a very powerful creature.

    having said that, this is all just word games really, because 1- i am not a professional quantum theorist, and 2- according to my understanding of quantum theory, its all still in its infancy and mainly based on maths alone, like string theory or M theory.

    nice question though, have a star.

  • 1 decade ago

    I believe that science and reason are the best ways we have to find the truth of reality. That doesn't mean I accept every scientific theory as equally valid. Different theories have different levels of confirmation. Evolution by natural selection, for instance, is about as close to "proven" as a scientific theory can possibly get. Quantum field theory is still relatively in infancy.

    Now, that said, I'm not a physicist. My scientific expertise is mostly limited to biology and some chemistry. But I have a rudimentary understanding of quantum physics, and I believe you are extrapolating improperly. Quantum effects occur at a sub-atomic level. They do not necessarily scale up to the macro world of things we can see and touch. The fact that an electron can exist as a probability field does not mean that every possible permutation of reality actually exists. And even if it did, we would only be able to exist in and interact with one version of reality. So if a god exists in some reality, it is not necessarily the one we exist in.

    ***UPDATE***

    "It just sounds like no one even entertains this...too many know-it-alls with their cups overflowing I guess. Fun to hear such firm beliefs though...almost akin to faith itself."

    So just because you don't understand quantum theory, anyone who understands it better than you must be an arrogant know-it-all? Nice.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    quantum mechanics has zero to do with the idea you postulate. Quantum mechanics deals with the probability sphere of electrons and describes chemistry rather well. You are posulating an episode of Star Trek Next Generation--that is sci fi. And by the way--if you agree with your theory--then you also have to accept that in some quantum reality--I am God--you have to accept in a quantum reality that santa claus is a real individual--you have to accept fleets of flying pink unicorns in another quantum reality--so--all you've done is taken a bronze aged myth and made it even sillier.

  • 1 decade ago

    Actually, you don't have to delve into quantum physics to prove the existence of a God. You don't even have to get into spooky multidimensional physics. The existence of God can be proven in simple four-dimensional spacetime.

    You see, the universe is really big. Really, really big. Unimaginably big. So big that by simple random distribution of matter, everything which can be imagined, and everything which cannot be imagined, must exist somewhere. That includes pink unicorns, Santa Claus, talking snakes, God, the tooth fairy, Quetzalcoatl, the Easter Bunny AND the Passover Turkey, Cthulhu, the Flying Spaghetti Monster and a certain invisible orbital teapot. They simply don't exist here, or have any relevance to life here on earth.

    Do a Google search on "Level 1 Multiverse", it's pretty cool stuff and it's only scratching the surface of how big and weird the universe really is.

    Source(s): Physics. It's like religion, except that it's real.
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  • ?
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    1 decade ago

    I don't believe that there never was a god. I believe that there might have been a god at some point, which might even have been the creator of this planet, there doesn't seem to be one now. If an organism could become energy, then it would need to be able to manipulate energy, and so it would probably be able to condense energy into matter. With enough energy, it would, in theory, be able to create a planet/solar system/universe/whatever.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    You don't understand the principle.

    The theory is a sort of mathematical accounting for the fact that virtual particles can have a delayed affect on future states (the ability of light particles to find the shortest path through a macroscopic prism can be computed through proper use of this principle, for instance). It is not a universal "anything can happen" law.

    It would be like philosophically interpreting Newton's Third Law to mean that we should have an equal number of Democratic and Republican presidents - or that perhaps the election of a leader of a certain ideology in one nation means that another nation of equal population must elect one of the opposite ideology. In the same way that Newton's Third Law applies to physical forces, not metaphorical ones, the 'multiple universe' method of particle accounting applies to quantum states, not theological philosophies.

    This is an ironic illustration of how science is NOT religion. You can't simply take laws and interpret them into things you wish they said through poor use of language and have them be true. There are right ways and wrong ways to use scientific (particularly physical) laws, and finding ways to linguistically abuse them does not make the tortorous conclusion true.

  • 1 decade ago

    If what you are saying is possible then all gods must be possible. So you are saying that the Romans, the Greeks, the Egyptians and the Norse gods as equally as likely as the Christian God and the Muslim Allah.

  • 1 decade ago

    What exactly do you mean by "believe in"? If you're assuming that I take at face value everything that anyone claims is proved by "science and reasoning" then the answer is no. I have a skeptical eye towards everything in life.

    Now, as for the rest of your question, let me put it this way, you aren't going to start believing in Mighty Mouse based on that theory, are you?

  • 1 decade ago

    I agree with you... but, the number of definitions for this god opens a can of worms so large that no single god could exist with all the conflicting traits... therefore the existence of god must be subject to individual quantum realities. If this is the case, then no gods exist in my reality. poof!

  • 1 decade ago

    Anything is "possible". But to use the same science to prove a biblical god exists from the same science religious people scoff at is dishonest.

    I cannot disprove a creator, no one can. I can however disprove a biblical god creator.

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