Don't you think it makes sense that?

It does make sense yes. It is still a process ruled by fatuous rules. I cannot understand why everything is not open and accessible to all patries concerned as it would be in any birth family.

I totally agree!! If the child wants that information they should be able to get it!

I feel like the adoption laws are still operating under the idea that the parents will lie to the children about their adoptions- when obviously most people are honest these days with the adopted children (or I would hope).

As far as the parents records go, I have to say that I DO think the birth families health history should be supplied. We are blessed that our oldest adopted daughter is my niece- so I know her entire families history- including the chemical/mental issues that appear to have been inherited by her. That information was not supplied or needed at the time of her adoption, but its very significant now!

Our youngest adopted daughter shares the same mom as our oldest, but we don't know who her father is. The state did several parernity tests that came back negative and her mother wouldn't supply anymore names. Hello- rude much?! So now we won't even have a name to tell her, nevermind an entire health history that's missing!

The children should be number one in the adoptions and the laws do need to be changed!

""These docs are something I think until the law changes, that the biological mother/parents do OWE the adoptees. Here in the US, the biological parents do get a copy of the hospital generated certififcate if they want it.""

I can't speak for Canada's laws on vital records nor really on what current surrendering mothers receive when they give birth, whether in Canada or USA. But I do know in my era of 'closed adoptions' (USA)....mothers received NADA! Not a scrap of paper was given to us....and most certainly I know what was not given to me. And no hospital generated cert was given either. Maybe when answering/questioning should be more specific in regards to the years in which the adoption took place. To say what "biological" mothers OWE to the adoptee on YA is disingenious...as this has been discussed a thousand times as to what "biological" mothers were given when their children were born and then taken away...most especially during the BSE.

""They are allowed to oversee and access medical and legal records for their dependent children, aren't they?"

Yes, their own children's medical & legal records....this does not allow the dependent bio child as a child (nor as an adult) to have access to their own (adult) bio mother/parents "medical & legal records".

""Why can't they walk in to an office and gather this information for the adoptee?""

An adoptive parent should have access to the adopted child's own medical records, if indeed any medical records for that child had already been created/exist...i.e. illnesses, immunizations, surgeries, etc, before the adoption was finalized. No adoptive parent (an adult) has the right to look into/access/have in their possession, the private medical and legal records of another adult. If so, then there must be equality...the natural surrendering parent should have equal access into the adoptive parent's "medical and legal records" as well.

The adoptee should always have had their OBC, whether infant, child or adult....and not have to need permission from any source to look at/have personal possession of. And I should have had always...in my possession my child's OBC, from the day I left the hospital...BEFORE any adoption finalization occurred. Such was and still is not the case.

Ferb, are you actually saying YOU should have in your possession the "medical and legal records" of your adopted children's natural mothers/parents? Those are not "vital records"....vital records are original birth certificates, death certificates and marriage certificates. There is a huge difference between "vital records" and "medical and legal records". Lumping them together is once again blurring the lines...and not correct.

All documentation should be accessible. I hate the laws where we continue to close important records. These docs are something I think until the law changes, that the biological mother/parents do OWE the adoptees. Here in the US, the biological parents do get a copy of the hospital generated certififcate if they want it. I actually think because of the heinous laws here where we seal this stuff up, that certificate should be given to the adoptive parents by the bio parents until the adoptee can take ownership of them themselves.

If the medical information is relevant then yes I agree. For example there is a history of high blood pressure, strokes, cancer, heart attacks, arthritis and diabetes in my family. My mum is asthmatic as well so I do believe that my son's adoptive parents should have known that information. Other medical information no as that is personal to that person. I have been in hospital for various reasons mostly because I am accident prone so whilst I was quite happy to tell my son it was only right that it was my choice to tell him.

It all depends if it was an open or closed adoption. But I think they should be able to access medical and legal records.

i think the parents should know everything about the child they are adopting

Good question. It makes perfect sense to me.