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Federal Champion Warnings?
So, I've bought a couple boxes of the cheap red box Champion 9x19mm Federal, and now there's this new warning on the side of the box:
"Not for use in ported, or recoil compensated pistols".
It's non-P+, and as far as I'm concerned it's no different than any other 9mm ball. Does anyone here know why they've marked the boxes like that?
Thanks in advance.
Cane Toad, that actually makes perfect sense. I guess I didn't think of it that way.
I just found it funny that they had to put that on the box... is it really that much of a reduced load???
6 Answers
- C T MLv 710 years agoFavorite Answer
Speculation here Gregg, but I'm going to guess that it's a reduced recoil, or low powered cartridge and it's possible it won't cycle a semi auto that's been ported or recoil compensated due to the bleeding off of gasses.
Source(s): Just a guess, unfounded on anything other than experience. - MJLv 710 years ago
I am almost completely sure it's because Champion uses a plated bullet instead of a full copper jacket. Though many shoot plated bullets through compensated or ported guns, there is potential to send shrapnel through the air.
Plated bullets...Hence the low price.
UMC, WWB, etc. also comes in at about the same velocity as Champion. Funny thing is, I find that Champion functions better. Never had a 1/2 power load with Champion like you'll sometimes have with UMC.
Anyway, it's a safety issue, not a functioning issue that has Federal's lawyers worried enough to cover their azzes with a warning on the box.
- ChaseLv 510 years ago
Remington does the same exact thing. they have shells called "managed recoil" they will not Develop enough gases to operate the gas action. The ported part is the gas gun and recoil compensated would just be a gun That depends on recoil to fire.
- TahoeguyLv 710 years ago
Gotta be a jacket thing bud, but for liability reasons. I have a SA 1911 that is both ported AND a short barrel. It eats everything ive fed it without a hiccup. Sure, not every gun feeds everything, but ported barrels are no more or less picky than any other semi auto in my experiance.
ported barrels may have thier downsides, but the fireworks show is a blast!!!
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- smokehillfarmLv 610 years ago
I also suspect it's the reduced power.
It's one of the reasons I don't much like ported or any kind of compensated barrels in semi-autos. It changes the backpressure needed to cycle the mechanism properly and you have to really play with different types of ammo to find out what will work and what won't. In revolvers it's fine, of course -- one of the great advantages to having a revolver if your life depends on it functioning properly every time in all circumstances..
- Bob SacamanoLv 510 years ago
The published velocity is <50 fps than Federal American Eagle so I'm not real sure what the deal is. Maybe the bullet jacket is real thin or even plated.