Atheists, help me understand supernatural experiences! Serious answers please!?

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There are a few supernatural happenings in my life I haven't been able to solve. All of the things I swear - happened.

I grew up in Siberia, Russia. Very poor place, no technology, etc... we were poor too.

Experience 1: When I was 4 or 5 years old (year 1989-90) I remember crying, grizzling really badly and my mom not being able to control me. I remember walking away from mom, sitting by the fireplace all mad and I heard a loud voice coming from the house entry door, in Russian "не капризничай", translated into English "Don't grizzle". It was a male voice as if through a microphone. I did not know the word grizzle, again it was in Russian. I didn't know the meaning or ever heard of the word, so I asked my mom what it was and I remember she told me it meant to not cry.

Experience 2: I grew up in a protestant religion. When I was about 4 or 5 years old, my mom explained ещ me that devil was bad and god was the good guy, and everyone likes god, etc... and she told me to rebuke the devil(common practice they did). About the same time, when I went to the outhouse (still in Siberia) and I felt sorry that no body likes the devil and god has too many friends, so I told devil that I am his friend and I rebuked god. I didn't tell this to anyone. For the next many many days... (maybe 30-50 or so), whenever I slept on the edges of the bed once or twice every night someone would poke me really hard on a side. It happened until I came to mom and told her that someone is poking me at nights, she prayed for me, she even had some special guy pray for me, nothing helped. I again talked to her in a few weeks and told her what happened originally, so she told me to rebuke the devil and ask god for forgiveness. I did just that and since then it never happened again.

Experience 3,4&5: I saw three glowing male people in long dresses to which I referred to as angles. All three were different from each other. One of them I can't remember as clearly, but I saw him when I woke up from bed in the middle of the night. The second one I also saw when I woke up. He was shorter, long slightly wavy hair, looking at me, behind my head. As soon as I put my head down and lifted it back up he was gone. The last one I saw standing in one of the doorways, when my mom, my brother and I were passing from one side of the house to the other. He looked just like the other two, but taller and short hair. None of them had wings or stuff on their heads. I can't remember exactly what they wore.

There were a bunch more things happening, I woke up at night and saw a gold moon and a silver moon in the middle of the room, crescent shape, rotated 90 degrees, positioned like a sad smiley.... and much other stuff. Here's the crazy thing. I moved to U.S. at nine years of age. Since then, I haven't had anything similar happen to me in U.S.

I did consider that maybe who knows how, i got drugged by somebody... but my parents never smoked, drank and used drugs... and even then, how could I have heard a word I never new of, first example. I also considered that I may have had mental problems... but... i seem to always have been fine, fairly educated and quite successful in life, and once again the first example would contradict it.

I also took into consideration that maybe because it happened in Soviet Union, government was somehow involved in this ...I know this sounds silly, but I do know that they had spies for protestants. But then how come my mother never heard the loud voice in the first experience and never saw the yellow guy?

I swear to you that every single detail on here is true. I'm not religious. I understand the loops, mistakes, blind faith in religion... etc...  I am very open minded, very straight-forward, logical... But this has confused me so much, for so many years!!!

Any kind of explanation, theory, anything helps! Much thanks!!

? · Accepted Answer

Have you ever been tested for minor epilepsy?

Non-apparent micro-epileptic seizures and other minor neurological disorders can cause the kind of brief delusional experiences that you're describing. Once they're over (usually in a matter of seconds or few minutes) the brain immediately tries to 'make sense out of it', contextualizing and completing the experience in a rationalized (if strange and confusing) memory.

This doesn't imply that you're mad or anything. There're lots of 'normal' and even brilliant people with this kind of problems. As you describe it, it sounds like the effects of a very mild neurological disorder. And if they stopped around the onset of puberty, it makes perfect sense, lots of those disorders disappear (or appear) with such life changes.

Edit to address your question:

I'm pleased to help. Probably you had heard it somewhere, just didn't understand or remember it consciously. But the brain registers everything, including associations of words to certain feelings. It just "popped up" during one of this presumed seizures. I've seen neurological patients 'popping up' things that they hadn't remembered for decades and didn't even know what they meant (and sometimes they forgot again after the seizure).

lhvinny · Answer

Experience 1:  There is no way to tell from where the voice came or who said it from what you've given.  I fully admit that it is of unknown origin, but that does not mean we can jump to any conclusion, natural or supernatural.

Experience 2:  Again it's difficult to say exactly what was causing the poking sensation.  My wife has muscle spasms that send horrible pain up her spine or legs and it is not due to any supernatural experience.  It is impossible to say for sure it was a demonic presence or simply a natural occurrence.

Experiences 3-5:  Our senses are not always working very effectively when first arising from sleep.  As such, it is difficult to say what they were, if anything.  We are used to seeing "human" patterns.  It is hardwired into our brains as a means by which we can recognize people or a person, especially when we are infants and our eyes aren't used to working as well yet.

Again, it's difficult to say exactly what is going on without more details.

Becky · Answer

I semi-know how you feel; I mean my family has like always had supernatural happenings (though I wouldn't call it supernatural more nature that no one completely understands yet). I personally think that since children are more open that they are sort of like beings to all kinds of spirits, more easy to see and interact with; where you lived might have been haunted or the government was somehow involved I don't really know but maybe you should just investigate supernatural happenings in the US.

Alpha Beta · Answer

Sorry, not going to read your diatribe.

How could anything be supernatural in a natural world?  You have provided not a single shred of evidence other than a story.

There is an explanation to everything.  Because you can't explain it does not mean it's supernatural.  It would seem very likely that anything supernatural would be unnatural in this universe.

Anonymous · Answer

Listen, I'm a theist, and but I don't follow any religion. And I do believe in ghosts and the sort. (Yeah, call me crazy). BUT I think the ghosts were in the country you formally lived in, that's why nothing happened since you moved to a new house in the US. But don't be scared! I don't think most ghosts mean harm.

? · Answer

Did they all happen when you were 4 and 5 or something >_>

WL378 · Answer

1) Santa yelling at you down the chimney. He knows when you beeen bad or good you know.
2) Uncle Harry finally got caught
3-5) Your mom was going to sell you to a pagan cult...You woke up just i time and no GOD didn't wake you up

Anonymous · Answer

Rather than have to read all of that.. 'An unexplained event is not evidence of the supernatural'

numbnuts222 · Answer

WHy are you asking atheists, I'm sure you'd have more luck with a psychologist.

Anonymous · Answer

Do you really expect us to have the patience to read all this, knowing full well that it is going to be total BS ?

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