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If Hell is real why did it evolve from sheol a normal place for all dead people to a torturing chamber?
Sheol (play /ˈʃiːoʊl/ shee-ohl or /ˈʃiːəl/ shee-əl; Hebrew שְׁאוֹל Šʾôl) is the "grave", "pit", or "abyss" in Hebrew.[1][2] She'ol[3] is the earliest conception of the afterlife in the Jewish scriptures. It is a place of darkness to which all dead go, regardless of the moral choices made in life, and where they are "removed from the light of God" (see the Book of Job). In the Tanakh sheol is the common destination of both the righteous and the unrighteous flesh, as recounted in Ecclesiastes and Job.
When the Hebrew scriptures were translated into Greek in ancient Alexandria around 200 BCE the word "hades" (underworld) was substituted for "sheol". (see Hellenistic Judaism).
same applies to satan from a god elected accuser to a fallen angel
http://www.beingjewish.com/basics/satan.html
same applies to lucifer who today has become a fallen angel
Traditionally, Lucifer (English pronunciation: /ˈluːsɪfər, ljuːsɪfər/) is a name that in English generally refers to the devil or Satan before being cast from Heaven, although this is not the original meaning of the term. In Latin, from which the English word is derived, Lucifer (as a noun) means "light-bearer" (from the words lucem ferre). It was the name given to the dawn appearance of the planet Venus, which heralds daylight. For this meaning, English generally uses the names "Morning Star" or "Day Star", and rarely "Lucifer".
Use of the name "Lucifer" for the devil stems from a particular interpretation of Isaiah 14:3–20, a passage that does not speak of any fallen angel but of the defeat of a particular Babylonian King, whom the passage names Helel (הֵילֵל, Shining One), a Hebrew word that refers to the Day Star or Morning Star (the Latin term[2] for which is lucifer)[3] In 2 Peter 1:19 and elsewhere, the same Latin word lucifer is used to refer to the Morning Star, with no relation to the devil. In Revelation 22:16, Jesus himself is called the Morning Star, but not "Lucifer", even in Latin.
It is uncertain when precisely the Isaiah passage, which in its Latin translation contains the name "Lucifer", began to be applied to Satan, but it was certainly used in this way by 3rd-century Origen,[4] and some scholars claim that the identification of "Lucifer" with the devil was first made by Origen, Tertullian and Augustine of Hippo.[5]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer.
christian doctrines have the habit of borrowing from other traditions and polluting whatever they borrowed to suit them.
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- MichaelLv 410 years agoFavorite Answer
You are wrong on all fronts. Sheol is where people went before Jesus died for our sins. It no longer exists, so it did not "evolve" into anything.
Hell is not a "torture chamber", it is what the Earth will turn into after those raised in victory in Jesus Christ depart with Him into Heaven. Then, after being burned up (along with the devil, antichrist, his angels, and those who rejected Jesus as Savior), there will be a new Heaven and a new Earth.
Revelation 21:1-8 (NIV)
1 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth,” for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea. 2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.”
5 He who was seated on the throne said, “I am making everything new!” Then he said, “Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true.”
6 He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To the thirsty I will give water without cost from the spring of the water of life. 7 Those who are victorious will inherit all this, and I will be their God and they will be my children. 8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.”
- Anonymous10 years ago
A very interesting culmination of some pretty decent research. You have absolutely traced roots from many different words and found several interesting corrolations. This however is implementing an old trick employed by the church for centuries - take a few verses and only talk about them as if they mean something in particular that is totally out of context...
In answer to your questions, without hell and the devil no religion would have any power over any person. If there was no fear of eternam torment after we die - well people just wouldn't attend church at all Most people attend church and pay their church because they fear what's to come after they die. Religion keenly creates some sort of heaven and hell so their followers will blindly obey their commands (faith) in an attempt to avoid hell.
So christians hopped on the band wagon, icked a few key features and mashed several words together and came up with a good story line to keep thedonations for salvations rolling in.
- MaryBethLv 45 years ago
Fire is used in scripture in regards to judgment, and the lake of fire, only mentioned in the highly symbolic book of Revelation, is likely not a burning torment. Eternal damnation involves separation from God. We can safely say that is the torment. Whatever other torment there is, is an unknown. So, as to what it is exactly is unknown, but people have a conscious existence there. As we read in 2 Peter, while Jesus' body laid in the grave, he descended in spirit and spoke to the spirits in prison, some of which were the disobedient who died in Noah's flood. In other words, the lost. In the following passage the word translated prison, "tartarus," is the Greek word for the nether world, the abode of the dead. 1 Peter 3:18-20, "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: 19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." These lost people aren't described as being in a lake of fire, burning. It doesn't really describe what is taking place, but it doesn't appear to be a firey hell.
- Anonymous10 years ago
Sheol evolve to hell, Cause hell has more Human Masses control potential
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- CFLv 710 years ago
Myth:The Wicked Suffer in Hell
What is the origin of the myth? “Of all classical Greek philosophers, the one who has had the greatest influence on traditional views of Hell is Plato.”—Histoire des enfers (The History of Hell), by Georges Minois, page 50.
“From the middle of the 2nd century AD Christians who had some training in Greek philosophy began to feel the need to express their faith in its terms . . . The philosophy that suited them best was Platonism [the teachings of Plato].”—The New Encyclopædia Britannica (1988), Volume 25, page 890.
“The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, ‘eternal fire.’ The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God.”—Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1994 edition, page 270.
What does the Bible say? “For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, . . . for there is no work or thought or knowledge or wisdom in Sheol, to which you are going.”—Ecclesiastes 9:5, 10, Revised Standard Version.
The Hebrew word Sheol, which referred to the “abode of the dead,” is translated “hell” in some versions of the Bible. What does this passage reveal about the condition of the dead? Do they suffer in Sheol in order to atone for their errors? No, for they “know nothing.” That is why the patriarch Job, when suffering terribly because of a severe illness, begged God: “Protect me in hell [Hebrew, Sheol].” (Job 14:13; Douay-Rheims Version) What meaning would his request have had if Sheol was a place of eternal torment? Hell, in the Biblical sense, is simply the common grave of mankind, where all activity has ceased.
Is not this definition of hell more logical and in harmony with Scripture? What crime, however horrible, could cause a God of love to torture a person endlessly?
Source(s): http://www.watchtower.org/e/20091101/article_03.ht... - Myth 2: The Wicked Suffer in Hell - 10 years ago
Sheol the place of the dead, but the story of Lazarus tells us it isnt a place of silence but a place of agony and pain, but also partly a place for those saved who go the good part of sheol called Abraham's Bosom, but not anymore since they now go to the 3rd heaven.
- Anonymous10 years ago
1) If Hell is real why did it evolve from sheol a normal place for all dead people to a torturing chamber?
I believe your contention is not accurate. However, if there are people who do believe such a thing, it is the result of the archaic translation of "sheol" as "Hell", an English translation that is not as appropriate in present-day English as it was 400 years ago.
2) Sheol (play /ˈʃiːoʊl/ shee-ohl or /ˈʃiːəl/ shee-əl; Hebrew שְׁאוֹל Šʾôl) is the "grave", "pit", or "abyss"
Your definition leaves *much* to be desired and is *indisputably* incomplete.
http://www.studylight.org/lex/heb/view.cgi?number=...
3) same applies to satan from a god elected accuser to a fallen angel
Not at all the same process. Jesus himself taught that Satan fell from Heaven and is the enemy of God and Man, and *that* is the source of Christian beliefs regarding Satan's change from a God-chosen "Accuser" to a fallen angel. This doctrine has *nothing* to do with any mistranslation or any Christian misunderstanding of an accurate translation.
4) same applies to lucifer who today has become a fallen angel
Rather, "Lucifer" has been improperly equated with "Satan." This is a misinterpretation of a Bible passage that had been accurately translated and so can be said to be "the same" as the first case.
5) Traditionally, Lucifer (English pronunciation: /ˈluːsɪfər, ljuːsɪfər/) is a name that in English generally refers to the devil or Satan before being cast from Heaven
Inaccurate claim. This ("refers to the devil or Satan before being cast from Heaven") is NOT a traditional teaching. This is a *very* recent teaching, taught only by people who rely on a very specific English Bible version (the King James Version) and who are literally ignorant of the fact that "Lucifer" is a translation. ***Very few*** Christians are taught this ridiculous belief. However, what **is** traditional - in fact, more than mere religious tradition but also a fact of culture and language - is that in most European cultures and languages the word "Lucifer" refers to the very same being as "Satan".
6) Use of the name "Lucifer" for the devil stems from a particular interpretation of Isaiah 14:3–20, a passage that does not speak of any fallen angel but of the defeat of a particular Babylonian King
Agreed. Completely correct.
7) In Revelation 22:16, Jesus himself is called the Morning Star, but not "Lucifer", even in Latin.
Agreed with respect to the Latin Vulgate in particular; uncertain if it is true that all Latin translations of Revelation refrain from using "lucifer".
- Jim,
- Anonymous10 years ago
When the OT is talking about "sheol", they're not talking about hell.
When Isaiah mentions the lake of fire, he is.
- Elsie TreizeLv 610 years ago
Hell and Heaven are not real. All gods are myths. All religions were invented by humans to control people.
So let's talk about the evolution of the human idea of hell. The place of eternal burning and torture was invented to scare people, so that people could be controlled by religious institutions, (the palace, the empire, the government etc.).