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What proof is there that the Church has replaced Israel?

Zecariah 2:8 For thus says the LORD of hosts, "After glory He has sent me against the nations which plunder you, for he who touches you, touches the apple of His eye. " The you referred to here is Israel. Zec 2:12 explains this The LORD will [fn]possess Judah as His portion in the holy land, and will again choose Jerusalem.

Why is it that Israel and the people are the ones dealt with in Rev 4-19 and NOT the Church? The Church is mentioned in Rev 1-4 then not again until 19-21.

Update:

My preferred translation is the NASB. When Zion is used, the Nation of Israel is meant. Judah is used here, this also means Israel. The people Zechariah was speaking to were the Israelites.

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  • Feivel
    Lv 7
    9 years ago
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    The church has not replaces Israel. The xtians have not been "grafted in". There is no "new covenant".

    The "nt" is a not a valid source of anything and the Torah makes it quite clear the covenant is eternal. Xtians will tell you all kinds of things though to try to make their religion "the right one" but following a false prophet, let alone believing that prophet was a diety himself, is a problem and the Torah makes that VERY CLEAR

    Source(s): Jewish
  • 9 years ago

    The Gentiles are grafted into the true (spiritual) Israel. Today's Israelis are NOT Israelites. The Jews wanted an earthly Kingdom and Jesus said "My Kingdom is not of this world". The Epistle to the Hebrews explains in painstaking detail that the Old Covenant has been replaced by the New - there are no priests, there is no sacrifice (Jesus is the Great High Priest and the once and for ever for all Sacrifice. He is the King) and the nation of Israel is replaced by a Heavenly Zion - that is not to say God is not using modern day Israel to teach His peoples (Jew and Gentile) lessons, but post 1948 Israel will never see a new temple built (We are the temple) nor will it see a return to priests and sacrifices. True Israel is the believing Jews and the believing Gentiles together - national Israel is not the Israel Jesus is concerned with.

  • ?
    Lv 6
    9 years ago

    The Church and Israel are Separate.

    The Church is 'gathered up' by Christ in the air which is why it isn't mentioned until the end of the book.

    Israel is being given a second chance by Christ -- Now is the 'time of the Gentiles' Next - the 7 yrs of tribulation is for Israel.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    There is no such proof because it hasn't happened.

    Zvi the Fiddler

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  • ?
    Lv 7
    9 years ago

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    In the verse following, Jesus is speakinf to the priests and scribes in the Temple.

    He Said; Matthew 21:43 Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof.

    Here is a list of the verses containing the words Church & Churches - 19:21 does not appear ? what sort of Bible are you using ? ? ?

    Rev_1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;

    Rev_1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

    Rev_1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches.

    Rev_2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

    Rev_2:7 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.

    Rev_2:8 And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;

    Rev_2:11 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

    Rev_2:12 And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;

    Rev_2:17 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.

    Rev_2:18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

    Rev_2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

    Rev_2:29 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

    Rev_3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

    Rev_3:6 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

    Rev_3:7 And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write; These things saith he that is holy, he that is true, he that hath the key of David, he that openeth, and no man shutteth; and shutteth, and no man openeth;

    Rev_3:13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

    Rev_3:14 And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God;

    Rev_3:22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

    Rev_22:16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

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  • 9 years ago

    The new Testament.

  • Anonymous
    9 years ago

    idk

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