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What are your favorite musical insults?
Composers, like any of us, don't always get along. So... what are some of the best examples? Stories will work (we all know about Wagner and his gloves), but preferentially these will be true musical insults.
Thanks!
Oh haha, that's not what I meant... guess I didn't make myself clear. But it works too :) I was wondering whether composers ever insulted each other through music. For instance, Satie's mockeries of Debussy (though I dont know if it was meant as an insult or just a joke).
But do with the question what you will :)
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- petr bLv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
Stravinsky 'does up' Schubert's 'Marche Militaire' in his "Circus Polka; for a young elephant," (a Balanchine Ballet for the elephants of the Barnum and Baily Circus: the elephants wore pink tutus!)
The Schubert (orchestral version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQnBZDln4Hk
Circus Polka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnMkb9sWrf0
Debussy sends up Wagner, using a quote from Tristan und Isolde in his playful 'Golliwog's Cakewalk,' from 'Children's Corner Suite.'
The Wagner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs_UxPMrekg
Golliwog's Cakewalk (in this link, the quote is from 1'29' to about the 2'00' mark)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioVTAgZTLCQ
Bartok Lampoons the main theme of the first movement of Shostakovich's Symphony No. 7 in the first movement of his 'Concerto for Orchestra.
The Shostakovitch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adMB97J7hCk
Concerto for Orchestra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdqB3WZCnaE
Mozart: The theme of the overture to 'Il Nozze di Figaro,' is from a tune by Clementi: the Clementi ditty being from an improvised piece from one round of a 'Piano Playoff' between Mozart and Clementi. Mozart turned the little tune into not only the overture, but a polyphonic romp in perfect sonata form. Certainly a form of one-upsmanship....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oKU94kxv-o
Liszt and his contemporary, piano virtuoso Sigismond Thalberg pariticipated in a staged sort of 'piano playoff' for a charitable event to raise funds for those Italians made indigent by the Italian Civil War. Thalberg's 'trademark' was a highly pyrotechnical configuration called the 'three hand effect' - pyrotechnical virtuosity of the left hand crossing, rapidly and often, in a piece of splashy display.
Liszt started the program first, playing his "Niobe - Grand Fantasy" -- based on themes from the opera of the same name by Pacini. This piece of musical fluff trumped Thalberg's 'signature trick' with Liszt's own 'three hand effect,' effectively blowing whatever Thalberg had prepared out of the water :-)
Liszt ~ Niobe, Grand Fantasy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCdGq2NiCjU
Prokofiev:
These two pieces are not direct 'lampoons' or satire. Prokofiev, had an irrepressible sense of wit and or satire, and I think could not but help himself.
Symphony No 1 -- Haydnesque, without taking anything directly from Haydn. One can not help but think this masterly symphony is both earnest while also being tongue in cheek.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2J_t2719xM&feature...
Overture on Hebrew Themes in C minor -- again neither lampoon or satire, but one can say the irony and other humorous elements, including the 'Klezmer' sound and manner, with which Prokofiev had not been at all familiar until he was presented with the commisson, are very much present in this piece.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9qmzofGGB8
The sharpest of remarks (of many) made to an aspiring instrumentalist?
"The best thing for you to play is the radio." --- ouch.
Best regards.
- puckrock2000Lv 79 years ago
Charles Ives, on Tchaikovsky's music: "We know that butter comes from cream, but how long do we have to watch the churning arm?"
- Jack HerringLv 69 years ago
Rachmaninoff was invited to the writers Tolstoy's home. After hearing Rachmaninoff perform some of his music Tolstoy took the composer aside and asked, "Is such music needed by anyone?"
- tucomenaLv 59 years ago
- Get up from that piano. You're hurtin' its feelings.
- You have Van Gogh's ear for music.
What a funny question, Kalibassa!
Best wishes,
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- LucasLv 59 years ago
he has a vangos ear for music.
I think Ive heard a better sound out of my toilet.
pull a Chopin's finger?
sir, that sounded like john cage.
why did you decide to be a composer?
Did my cat just get in a fight or was that a violin?
*BARRRFFFF*
- SsssssssLv 49 years ago
i dont know if this really qualifies but me and all my friends had one music teacher who would always tell students to drop his class if they are not serious about it or if they ya know dont show up for it so know if anyone of us gives a bad preformance or makes bad song we say "please drop the class"