If our morality comes from our society (as I think most of the atheists say), is that a good thing or bad thing or neither?

Research shows that the reason humans struggle with emotion to find equitable solutions is pinpointed the region of the brain called the insular cortex, or insula, which is also the seat of emotional reactions.

The fact that the brain has such a robust response to unfairness shows that sensing unfairness is a basic evolved capacity.

The emotional response to unfairness pushes people from extreme inequity and drives them to be fair. This observation shows our basic impulse to be fair isn't a complicated thing that we learn.

It therefore fully illustrates that all humans have morals controlled by the brain and that Christians are entirely wrong to try and claim morals as their own!!!!

But Christians found a way round it!

Government statistics show that Christians are vastly over represented in prisons for sexual, violent and fraudulent crime whilst year on year government figures show atheists make up only 2% of the prison population!

The Catholic Church is paying millions in compensation for the sex/paedophile crimes of their priests alone!

Christians are vastly over represented in the divorce courts!

Christians invented the concept of sin and then the idea that you could sin, ask forgiveness, get pardoned and start with a clean sheet!

So no surprise that they are so expert at it is it‽

A Christian is a man that feels repentance on Sunday for what he did on Saturday and is going to do on Monday. - Thomas Russell Ybarra

Our morality comes from our biology.

There is a natural basis for knowing right and wrong and for the desire to help others.

Humans along with many other species are social animals. The chances of survival are improved because of social interactions, complete with all the inherent urges, inhibitions, empathy and desires – many of which are what we call morals. Each species on average would have a different range of what is considered acceptable behavior (individuals vary widely).

The biologically induced urges and inhibitions affect our actions within society and also cause us to have animosity toward those whose behavior is beyond acceptability or the norm (desire for justice).

Those supposedly "human" traits have been observed in many animal species other than humans. No magic is involved.

If we can judge religious morality as good or bad maybe we're using another standard which is better than the religious one.

Our morality comes form a number of sources, including society, biology (Thank you Tim. Almost forgot that one.), reasoning and moral axioms. Whether it is a god thing or a bad thing, is a moral question, and thus depends on one's morality, which is derived from ....

Yeah, bit of a circular argument problem here.

Mine doesn't come from society. Mine comes from if I wouldn't like something done to myself then it makes sense not to do whatever it may be to others because I would feel bad for them and ashamed of myself. Are you saying that if you were never taught your religion then you would commit wrongdoing? If so it would cast doubt onto your own morality.

Because we have to live in a society, contribute to its peace and well being, it is a good thing to follow the laws and rules of society.

Neither. It's just how it is.

If it came from any other source it would be never changing and that is blatantly not the case.

The idea to not harm another is, for most people, self-evident; no need for a "God", with all of the attendant threats and promises necessary for one to do right, you see.

It just is what it is. Neutral, fact. If you want to convince other people to agree with your morals, you should use evidence and reason.

Being equal and being naturally selfish, man cannot make moral laws.