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What's your thoughts on replacing 5w-20 with 20w-50 on a Toyota Camry?
I own a 2008 Toyota Camry with 174k miles on it. It constantly burns oil and there isn't any leaks to justify it. One day I was adding the factory recommended 5w-20 full synthetic oil to it and my neighbor said it was the wrong type. I told him it was factory recommended oil and he said he knows but they recommend that for a newer engine and that I should use the really thick 20w-50 engine oil instead to prevent burning. When my car first starts up there is white smoke from the exhaust that last for about 5 seconds.
Both my neighbor and I do ride sharing sharing so our engines are constantly running for up to 8 hours at a time. He told me that on his Expedition he replaced the oil with 20w-50 and has never had a problem on the older engine and the white smoke on his SUV went away soon after.
I live in San Diego so temperatures are around 70-85 degrees year round.
Will the new thicker oil damage the engine at all? I have to weigh the risk and benefits on this high mileage engine as I would like to get another 5 years problem free. The car runs and sounds perfect.
Thank you for any input
5 Answers
- FlagMichaelLv 76 years agoFavorite Answer
Very bad idea. The bearings will be starved for oil.
Oil viscosity is dictated by bearing clearance. Clearance of .001-.002 calls for 5W-30; clearance of .0005-.001 calls for 5W-20. There is a popular assumption that bearing clearances increase in an engine as the age increases, but I have measured clearances in a Honda engine with more than 250K miles on it and they were still within the original .001-.002 range. If you consider that the bearings are a metal sandwich with a surface of Babbitt metal as thin as the clearance, you will understand the bearing will be chewed up and spit out if the clearance increased to the .005 inch that uses 50 weight oil.
The white smoke on start-up is probably from deterioration of the valve stem seals, but it could also be oil being sucked in through the PCV valve. No matter what the cause, using oil that is too thick to flow through the close clearances of your late model Toyota engine will only cause damage to the bearings.
- ChucklesLv 76 years ago
At this high a mileage you have nothing to lose. Because if you are burning oil, the car will not pass its net smog test without a lot of expensive work. So it is try that or fix the car.
As well, no car that has that sort of mileage be trouble free for 5 years. Th engine is wearing out already. If you are using this car for Uber or the like, you will be lucky to get a year from it.
- StpaulguyLv 76 years ago
Your neighbor is an idiot. 20W-50 will slow down oil burning. BUT it comes at a cost. It pumps slower at startup when you have the most engine wear. And it's thicker at warm up. So you get accelerated engine wear at all temps. Thicker oil doesn't cool as well, so parts run hotter. It creates more friction so it costs in gas mileage.
Even in San Diego, it flows slower at startup.
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- Anonymous6 years ago
The thicker oil will likely start to burn more rapidly as it oxidizes in the rings and prevents them from floating on the pistons. The VVTi system will get plugged up and you'll start getting cam codes. You'll have accelerated oil pump and oil pump drive wear as it was not designed to deal with that oil cold. You will have reduced lubrication on start up because it flows much more slowly. You'll have reduced gas mileage. You will have increased deposits and possible sludge build-up from the increased VI improvers in the heavier oil...etc.
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