Roman Catholics and Trinitarians if God and Jesus are the same person then how can God give his begotten son as it reads in John 3:16?

Christianity has NEVER taught that God the Father and God the Son were the same Person. In fact, this teaching has been explicitly denied. The Father is God, The Son is God, the Spirit is God, three separate Persons, but one God.

While this is a mystery it is not difficult to grasp.

I will grant to you that the fault may not be entirely yours. Christians often wrongly teach the Trinity. I remember as a child being taught by a well-meaning Sunday School teacher that just as she was a Daughter, a Wife, and a Mother, so too God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

The problem with that is not that God is one person with three different fuctions, but ONE God is three separate Persons. This position is entirely unique (in the classic meaning of the word.) None other possesses that quality.

Still wrong teaching of the Trinity does not absolve anyone from finding out the truth. I had teachers tell me I'd catch a cold by going outside with wet hair. That didn't absolve me from learning germ theory later on.

You're an idiot.

The members of the Trinity -- the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit -- are *not* the same person. It was an issue settled in one of the early councils of the Church, in a decision combatting heresy. There are three divine hypostases (the Greek word translated person) in the Trinity; they share the same divine essence, and are one God. The Father is the source, the Son is timelessly and eternally begotten of the Father, and the Holy Spirit proceeds eternally from the Father. One God, three persons.

Forgive me.

/Orthodox

The doctrine of trinity *explicitly* teaches that God is the eternal union of THREE "divine persons".

In other words: the doctrine teaches that God is NOT a single "person" (but he is a single God, one and only one God, one and only one being).

The doctrine of trinity *explicitly* teaches that the three "divine persons" are distinct. That is to say:

- the Father is not the same "person" as the Son

- the Father is not the same "person" as the Holy Spirit

- the Son is not the same "person" as the Holy Spirit

So: I will now answer your questions:

1) Roman Catholics and Trinitarians if God and Jesus are the same person then how can God give his begotten son as it reads in John 3:16?

God and Jesus are not the same "person", as the doctrine of trinity explicitly teaches.

2) Also in Gethsemane, to whom was Jesus praying and calling Father if he's God?

To the Father, as the Bible **plainly teaches**.

Jesus is the son of God, and he serves as a God, with his heavenly father.

ONLY pagan XXXtians who have migrated to Godless evolution believe in a false pagan Trinity god.

THE Traditional holidays with their annual rituals are coming: Halloween costumes, Christmas decorations, Easter bunnies. Where did those traditions and practices come from? Celebrated as Christian holidays, shouldn't these occasions be faithful to what the Bible says?

THE PAGAN XXXTIAN FAKE TRINITY

GOD

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This is the mistake people make who don't understand the Trinity doctrine. They think it says God and Jesus are the same person.

NO, IT DOESN'T.

God the Father could 'give' His only-begotten Son because the Father is not the Son, and the Son is not the Father, and all Trinitarians know this. It's only anti-trinitarians who don't know what the doctrine states that think that.

In Gethsemane, the Son (who had become the man, Jesus) was praying to His Father who was in Heaven. People confined to a physical existence on this planet have to pray to God in Heaven because they are not in Heaven, in God's immediate presence. That is why Jesus taught us to pray, "Our Father who is in Heaven..."

The Son had emptied Himself of the glory He had alongside the Father and the Holy Spirit in the Godhead (in Heaven). He had to lower Himself to become human and to be a servant at that. This accounts for all that Jesus spoke and prayed while confined to that human body. But He had not given up His deity, which is why John 1:1-14 says what it says about Him being God.

If you really want to understand what your misunderstanding is, please go to the links that show you what the Bible (and Trinitarians) teach about the Godhead. Then you will be able to post questions that won't make you blush due to you having misunderstood what you are asking about.

Jesus was human, and humans have parents. Mary was his mom, and God was his dad.

However, Jesus was made of the same stuff as God. Theologians call this "homoousios." Being made of the same stuff, he is God as well.

So, Jesus is fully human, AND fully God. As a human, he would have to pray to the wider God the same as any other human. We humans are limited by our very humanity. But, he is also God, living as a human man.

Geez I'm more confused now than before I asked this question.

OK correct me if I'm wrong so the Catholic belief of Trinity teaches there's one single God who's not Jesus and that the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are One but just in a spiritual way?.

If that's so the big majority of Roman Catholics I had ever met don't understand what Trinity is.

if you cannot understand the Tri Une nature of God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit, then there's nothing anyone can do for you