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Anonymous asked in Politics & GovernmentLaw Enforcement & Police · 6 days ago

Do you realize the Chauvin case is going to come down to whether the jury wants to follow the law or avoid the repercussions?

The prosecution is doing a really bad job and I don't see any way they're going to be able to prove what they need to prove. Several witnesses have backfired on them. I think they realize this which is why they're going so hard on the emotion rather than the facts. 

Updated 6 days ago:

@οικος- The video doesn't show a murder and that's my entire point. The prosecution is avoiding the facts and showing the video to evoke emotion. 

Updated 5 days ago:

@Judy- You don't sound like you understand what the word "murder" even means. Even if Chauvin's actions led directly to Floyd'death (which the prosecution can't and won't be able to prove) that's still not murder by itself.  

Updated 3 days ago:

@Steven- I "left that out" because it isn't true. For one, causing a death isn't the same thing as murder. For another, there were a lot of factors that caused his death so it would be impossible to prove Chauvin was the sole cause. 

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  • 4 days ago

    Of course I realize it.  

    And because of all of the movements that began because of the death of George Floyd, this country may go into lengthy civil war if the Jury comes to a not guilty verdict.  In other words there may be a lot of white and black George Floyd type of deaths in the years to come. 

    However, if Chauvin's actions were 

    not within the policy and training of his police department, and if his actions were a substantial cause of George Floyd's death

    Chauvin is then guilty

    We are a long way from proving those two things beyond a reasonable doubt and the Defense has not yet shown their case, 

    which commentators on CNN and other places have been trying to guess about for days 

    perhaps 

    INCORRECTLY! 

       

  • 4 days ago

    You left out if the jury believes the officer's actions were actually the cause of death. In this case, proving his actions were the cause of death IS sufficient for a murder conviction.

  • 5 days ago

    Apologists for Floyd need to quit acting like he was Mother Teresa

    Anyone that sees the video and watches the testimonies sees that Floyd was high, was breaking the law, was having trouble breathing and resisted arrest.

    However, did the officer need to put his knee on Floyds neck for a long period, that is the question. 

    Did the office know that Floyd had just swallowed a bunch of drugs and had a bad heart? 

    Or did the officer see a drug crazed Lineman sized man resisting arrest and training told him that was trouble. 

    Floyd should have never died, but Floyd should have not been a criminal and should not have resisted arrest.

  • 6 days ago

    I see you are already making excuses rather than admitting that Chauvin's lawyer can't argue against what the videos show.

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  • 6 days ago

    The court has put a media ban on identifying the jurors.

    First thing the New Times did was come within a 'hair' of doxxing them by printing a "THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW" article about them.

  • 6 days ago

    I have long believed you are correct as regards the ability of that City to conduct a fair trial. 

    Fear of repercussions and the potential destructive violent actions will render the case invalid due to the venue being compromised.

  • 6 days ago

    Facts are facts.  Floyd had taken a huge dose of drugs, but he was also mishandled by police, in my opinion at this time.  To find Chauvin guilty, it has to be proven that his actions caused the death.  I could come down to what killed Floyd first, the drugs or Chauvin's behavior.  

  • Anonymous
    6 days ago

    ok well thanks for your analysis judge judy

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    6 days ago

    I just don't think the prosecution is going to be able to prove that holding Floyd down is what killed him.

    And if they can't do that, the charges against Chauvin are nullified.

  • 6 days ago

    i think it depends on which crime they try to get the charges on in the end

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