A Simple Question for Jehovah's Witnesses?

Besides false prophesies, the WTS has misled its members through countless changes in doctrine and practice:

"To worship Christ in any form cannot be wrong ... " (WT, 3-1880, 83). "It is unscriptural for worshippers of the living and true God to render worship to the Son of God, Jesus Christ" (WT, 11-1-1964, 671).

The men of Sodom will be resurrected (WT, 7-1879, 7-8). The men of Sodom will not be resurrected (WT, 6-1-1952, 338). The men of Sodom will be resurrected (WT 8-1-1965, 479). The men of Sodom will not be resurrected (WT 6-1-1988, 31). The men of Sodom will be resurrected (Live Forever, early ed., 179). The men of Sodom will not be resurrected (Live Forever, later ed., 179). The men of Sodom will be resurrected (Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 2, 985). The men of Sodom will not be resurrected (Revelation: Its Grand Climax at Hand! 273).

"There could be nothing against our consciences in going into the army" (WT, 4-15-1903, 120). Due to conscience, Jehovah’s Witnesses must refuse military service (WT, 2-1-1951, 73).

"We may as well join in with the civilized world in celebrating the grand event [Christmas] . . . " (WT Reprints, 12-1-1904, 3468). "Christmas and its music are not from Jehovah . . . What is their source? . . . Satan the devil" (WT, 12-15-1983, 7).

"Everyone in America should take pleasure in displaying the American flag" (WT Reprints, 5-15-1917, 6068). The flag is "an idolatrous symbol" (Awake!, 9-8-71, 14).

A much longer list of such contradictions and doctrinal twists by the WTS could be formed, but this suffices to remove any reason one might have to believe that "It is through the columns of The Watchtower that Jehovah provides direction and constant scriptural counsel to his people . . . " (WT, 5-1-1964, 277).

If that is the case, who is to say what will be taught tomorrow?

If a tree bears bad fruit can you get it to bear good fruit or can you by changing the colors of the clothes one wears change they way they think and act. The devil only came to destroy and to stop people worshiping Jesus Christ

The simple fact that not all who claim to be Jehovah's Witnesses are Jehovah's Witnesses - some may be living double lives - and the fact that some have fallen away from the truth means that the numbers Jehovah's Witnesses produce have no meaning for Revelation 7:9. Besides, Revelation 7:9 speaks of the Great Crowd, not the Other Sheep. The Great Crowd are those that "come out of the Great Tribulaton," which has not happened yet. Whereas the 144,000 is a set number, the Great Crowd is not, and "no man" living is able to predict the exact number, whatever it will be.

The Watchtower Society is honest enough to admit when they are wrong.

Many scholars in Christendom have admitted that the trinity is a false teaching, Yet most churches continue to teach it.

Historian Will Durant observed: "Christianity did not destroy paganism; it adopted it. . . . From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity." And in the book Egyptian Religion, Siegfried Morenz notes: "The trinity was a major preoccupation of Egyptian theologians . . . Three gods are combined and treated as a single being, addressed in the singular. In this way the spiritual force of Egyptian religion shows a direct link with Christian theology."

In the preface to Edward Gibbon's History of Christianity, we read: "If Paganism was conquered by Christianity, it is equally true that Christianity was corrupted by Paganism. The pure Deism of the first Christians . . . was changed, by the Church of Rome, into the incomprehensible dogma of the trinity. Many of the pagan tenets, invented by the Egyptians and idealized by Plato, were retained as being worthy of belief."

The French Nouveau Dictionnaire Universel (New Universal Dictionary) says of Plato's influence: "The Platonic trinity, itself merely a rearrangement of older trinities dating back to earlier peoples, appears to be the rational philosophic trinity of attributes that gave birth to the three hypostases or divine persons taught by the Christian churches. . . . This Greek philosopher's conception of the divine trinity . . . can be found in all the ancient [pagan] religions."

Another example:

On the History Channel concerning ice cream, I learned that we have Sundae's today because many "Church Leaders" preached that drinking "soda" or carbonated water on Sunday was a sin.

So on Sunday, Ice Cream Parlors started selling "Ice Cream Sodas" without the soda, and were called Sundae's when people wanted them on other days of the week.

Is drinking soda on Sunday still a sin, or has it changed?

I think it's funny that Jehovah's Witnesses are held to higher standard:

and Yet:

Billy Graham 'prophecied' that the end would come in the 1950's

Methodist founder John Wesley wrote: "1836 The end of the non-chronos, and of the many kings; the fulfilling of the word, and of the mystery of God; the repentance of the survivors in the great city; the end of the 'little time,' and of the three times and a half; the destruction of the east; the imprisonment of Satan."[

Luther stated in print that the end would come in his day (1500's)

As to 1925: What was written?

"The year 1925 is here. With great expectation Christians have looked forward to this year. Many have confidently expected that all members of the body of Christ will be changed to heavenly glory during this year. This may be accomplished. It may not be. In his own due time God will accomplish his purposes concerning his people. Christians should not be so deeply concerned about what may transpire this year."

You will notice ~ "It may not be"

1975 was never taught as an end date, but the end of 6000 years since human creation.

Please get all your fact straight.

I do not think that the comments of Luther, Wesley or Graham make them false prophets, for the same reason that I don’t accept that the Watch Tower is a false prophet, namely, that interpreting Bible prophecy is not the same as prophesying.

If the word of God is to be accomplished first the democratic nations must fall during a time of global crisis brought on by financial collapse and war. Then, and only then, will the 8th king arise; to whom all the rulers of the world will be terrorized into obeying.

Since this has not occurred according to the Watchtower teachings, the bible warns them:

"And my hand has come to be against the prophets that are visioning untruth and that are divining a lie. In the intimate group of my people they will not continue on..."

Those in the intimate group of God's people will be dealt with.

not answering your question, but you remind me, my theory about this is, take the current Hebrew year, is it 5754? and subtract it from the Hebrew number for God,in their Gamatria tables, of numbers signifying different things, and here you will have the approximate time of Armageddon, how many years is this, approx 10 6 9 something like eight hundred to a thousand something years, i would tell you to try it and see if it works, but i think you won, t be around to see it first hand, at least not on this terafirma or in this realm get the current Jewish year, and the number will be more exact

A simple answer will not help you. First off you come across as someone having biblical Permafrost. No amount of explaining will help.

Note the Following..

In his first letter to the Corinthian Christians, the apostle Paul complained that he was unable to speak to them “as to spiritual men,” but that he needed to speak to them “as to babes in Christ.” (1 Corinthians 3:1) Similarly, he wrote, likely to Christians living in Judea: “Concerning him we have much to say and hard to be explained, since you have become dull in your hearing. For, indeed, although you ought to be teachers in view of the time, you again need someone to teach you from the beginning the elementary things of the sacred pronouncements of God; and you have become such as need milk, not solid food. For everyone that partakes of milk is unacquainted with the word of righteousness, for he is a babe.”

And therein lies the Rub.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not worship the same God as Christians, and do not recognize Jesus as the Son-of-God.

Why do you waste you time with the Watchtower, when you could be investigating The one True Church which Jesus established? Enroll in a CRC study Group today! "We reserve the right to welcome all races, creeds and colors. Black, white, yellow and red or any other colour combination.

We believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins!

Wait for it.... Wait for it...

Why is it that they stone wall us when we have them in a corner? It's like they're programmed to believe in lies. Some are truly sweet people but many of them refuse to believe their church is in the wrong. They always fail to see the verse that states we don't know the time of Jesus's return. Yet they claim they do every twenty years or so. I guess eventually they'll get it right if they keep guessing.

Go Wally!

What's even sadder than what you've pointed out....

is that the Watchtower has convinced them...

That they never MEANT that they were a prophet.

I hurt for these people. Seriously.

The teachings will change. The brainwashed will not notice.

Why ask for original rational thought from drones and brainwashers?