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Christians (anyone welcome) how do you explain the similarities?

A bit long, but since many don't wish to go online and research, I figured I'd post parts of it :)

Krishna & Jesus similarities (Krishna's accounts actually come prior to Jesus)

#6 & 45: Yeshua and Krishna were called both a God and the Son of God.

7: Both was sent from heaven to earth in the form of a man.

8 & 46: Both were called Savior, and the second person of the Trinity.

13, 15, 16 & 23: His adoptive human father was a carpenter.

18: A spirit or ghost was their actual father.

30 to 34: Angels in both cases issued a warning that the local dictator planned to kill the baby and had issued a decree for his assassination. The parents fled. Mary and Joseph stayed in Muturea; Krishna's parents stayed in Mathura.

56: Both were identified as "the seed of the woman bruising the serpent's head."

58: Jesus was called "the lion of the tribe of Judah." Krishna was called "the lion of the tribe of Saki."

66: Both were "without sin."

72: Both were god-men: being considered both human and divine.

76, 77, & 78: They were both considered omniscient, omnipotent, and omnipresent.

83, 84, & 85: Both performed many miracles, including the healing of disease. One of the first miracles that both performed was to make a leper whole. Each cured "all manner of diseases."

101: Both selected disciples to spread his teachings.

121 to 127: Both celebrated a last supper. Both forgave his enemies.

128 to 131: Both descended into Hell, and were resurrected. Many people witnessed their ascensions into heaven.

Errors in Graves' book:

Due either to carelessness, or the primitive knowledge of religious history in the late 19th century, it appears that Graves made some errors in his book. He reported that:

Both Krishna and Yeshua were born on December 25.

Actually, Krishna is traditionally believed to have been born during August. The festival Janmashtami is held in honor of this birth.

The birth day of Jesus is unknown, but is believed by many to have also been about August during some year between 4 and 7 BCE.

December 25th was chosen for Christmas to coincide with a pre-existent Pagan Roman holiday, Saturnalia. December 25th was also recognized in ancient times as the birth day of various other god-men such as Attis and Mithra. All were linked to the winter solstice, which occurs about DEC-21.

Jesus' and Krishna's mothers were holy virgins

In addition to the above points of correspondence between Yeshua and Krishna, there may be one more similarity: they may have both been crucified.

Update:

r_u_real & purrrrfectionist= nice response. But these points don't come from me, rather by studies done. How could you say the Bible IS the word of God, when many stories (even prior ones) are similar to other mythological ones written prior? How can you be so sure?

Update 2:

Quiet.Buck= I'm an Ex-Catholic. 14 years of studying the Bible. I've also studied mythology extensively. You'd be surprised :)

Update 3:

Sovereign= you fail to see that many mythological stories are VERY VERY similar to accounts in the Bible (this is all but one, and I don't mean just about Jesus). You're accepting your version as the truth, yet you can't discredit the fact that they were written prior and that the Bible was written by men LONG after the characters had died. So who's telling the truth?

Update 4:

@ Kira = here you go http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jckr1.htm

You may also be interested in googling the story of King Sargon and Mithra :)

Update 5:

@ Chris S = I provided the similarities, not the full account. These are similarities that were studied and compared (so you need to know both accounts). The link is provided on my other comment posted previously

@... = and what exactly is the truth? Where did *God* write the truth? The Bible? Written AFTER all these accounts? Seriously, why can't people be objective? I'm not disregarding any possibilities, but the fact that some people mention the *truth* and what is *real*? Come on...

Update 6:

Kira, if you wish you can email me and we can discuss this further :)

Update 7:

@ Lion of Judah Regular= Jesus (as a person) may have existed, though even his existence is still up for debate. What he stands for, is what it's in question.

@ Kira = yes, even other stories on the O.T. are similar to prior written mythological stories. Whether any deity exists, we cannot know. But that religion is men-made, that's no doubt :)

I seriously question the people who believe that the Bible are true events (or word of God), when in fact NO ONE was alive to tell. Rather everyone took common folklore stories and made them into their own religion. Just look at how many branches with Christianity are there. All because of disagreements

Update 8:

@ Chris S. =Krishna was born of the virgin Devaki. No one said the stories were exactly alike. What you're failing to see is that both have similarities (VERY vivid ones). That does not mean they both didn't take some parts from a previous folklore and made them their own. Is that so hard to believe? Really..

Other virgin birth (according to online research)

Savior Dionysus was born of the virgin Semele.

Buddha too was born of a virgin,

The old Teutonic goddess Hertha was a virgin impregnated by the heavenly Spirit and bore a son.

Scandinavian Frigga was impregnated by the All-Father Odin and bore Balder, the healer and savior of mankind.

Update 9:

@ Chris S. = all research I've done regarding the above does state the same (different sources, books, online..please provide yours)

The gospels written? Surely you're jesting. You ARE aware of the origins of the gospels, are you not? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gospel Since you accept wikipedia, please read what it states: even just the very first paragraph

Update 10:

Took me forever to find a hindu site. Still states the same. If you guys have hindu sites where you are providing a conflict with what I've read, please provide sources

http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Hinduisms_influence.ht...

Update 11:

And I am, by no means implying that Krishna is a TRUE story. Not at all! Likewise, I won't agree with the Jesus story (not arguing the existence, arguing what He stands for)

Update 12:

In Chapter 11 of the Gita Krishna transfigures himself in a way very similar to Christ’s transfiguration (See Plate 3 at www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/trinplates.htm.) Krishna asserts his divine priority and sovereignty by subordinating impersonal Brahman as his “womb” (14: 2, 27). (See Figure 2 for a Krishna cosmogony at www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/trinfig.htm.) The Krishna Trinity is usually expressed by Vishnu as the cosmic body (vishvarupa), the incarnate Krishna, and Krishna as paramatma, a Hindu equivalent of the Holy Spirit immanent and working in all things.[17] (See Figure 3 at www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/ trinfig.htm.)

Update 13:

The author Jacolliot, referring to the "Bagaveda-Gita and Brahminical traditions," states that the body of Krishna: "was suspended to the branches of a tree by his murderer, that it might become the prey of the vultures...[Later] the mortal frame of the Redeemer had disappeared--no doubt it had regained the celestial abodes..." 6

M. Guigniaut's Religion de l'Antiquité, which states: "The death of Crishna is very differently related. One remarkable and convincing tradition makes him perish on a tree, to which he was nailed by the stroke of an arrow." 7

There are other references to Krishna being crucified, and being shown with holes in his feet, hands and side. 5

Update 14:

In the Christian Scriptures (New Testament) Yeshua's crucifixion on a cross or stake is often referred to as being "hung on a tree:"

Acts 5:30: "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus...hanging him on a tree.

Acts 10:39: "...hanging him on a tree."

Acts 13:29: "...they took him down from the tree..."

Galatians 3:13: "Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law, having become a curse for us; for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree."

1 Peter 2:24: "...who his own self bare our sins in his body upon the tree

Update 15:

@ Chris S. = lol good for you that you can't provide sources. Once you do, you may get back to me. No point discussing further without sources

Update 16:

Krishna was born in a cave, which at the time of his birth was miraculously illuminated.

Devaki, the radiant Virgin of the Hindu mythology, bore Krishna to the god Vishnu (second god of the Trimurthi (also called the Hindu Trinity).

"The divine Vishnu himself descended into the womb of Devaki and was born as her son Krishna." Boslooper, Thomas, The Virgin Birth, SCM Press, 1962, Pp 148 & 149

Update 17:

@ LH Catholic - au contraire. These aren't my views, merely research. They have yet to be discredited as you *phrase* it. I provided links by authors, websites etc..etc..I'm not discrediting their interpretation. I'm going by what I've read so far (and what scholars/authors have written). I'm not trying to disprove Jesus, perhaps they were? ;)

Update 18:

@ Sam - please read above comments, thanx :)

@ Emily H - I would agree with you. Unfortunately there are more people (than you think) who take everything literally. I would accept anyone who says they believe due to faith. But the Bible? I don't think so

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  • 1 decade ago
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    I think you wasted your valuable time trying to throw some light here judging by the responses. Nobody is interested in finding the answers themselves if you notice. They are all keen to rush to pick a side and viciously defend it. I continue to be amazed at the vitriol that is spilled here in the name of the sympathetic God and various versions of 'my way or the highway'. All religions were an attempt by disparately spread populations to keep their communities accountable, conforming and in control. Therefore, we are bound to see similarities. It is even said that during Jesus' yondering days, he had been to India in his own personal quest for answers. Maybe there was an exchange there.

    Cheers, and may you find your own God.

  • 1 decade ago

    Now you see why research is so important, any time someone says here believe this check it out for yourself. These similarity are well known in the theological community, and still Christians believe as they do. Have you read books by, S. Acharya "Suns of God " explains just what you are reveling.

    The sad thing is their superstition is so strong that they will not allow themselves to accept the truth, because their entire lives and and emotional connections are based on the fable. They will go so far as to say you must be possessed, by their made up Satan. Good luck.

  • 1 decade ago

    Sorry but the similarities don't interest me.

    The only thing that I can say is that the Bible has been written, re-written, translated from ancient texts containing words which there are no known translations for, and then entire books were never entered and entire books were removed and/or replaced by the Catholic church in their attempt to frighten the people into control.

    At that time, mostly before the reformation, the Church was the government as well as a very strict moral mandate in which to live your life by. Why? because it was in the governments (churches) best interest to keep the masses under control and obliged to them.

    All this being said however,

    I still believe in God. The mistakes and crimes of man shouldn't be allowed to keep me from my creator.

    Well, I got rid of the middle man, ....the organized Church.

    I want to commune with my creator on a one to one basis.

    I don't want anyone preaching to me about what I should be talking to my God about.

    I sought a personal relationship.

    I found it 17 years ago and it's the cornerstone of my life.

    I believe solace, peace, love and beauty can be found in whatever way somebody wants or chooses and I respect that.

    Believing and having faith in Jesus Christ is my way of obtaining peace and enables me to utilize a framework for moral behavior that I admire. You have to like yourself first before you can love others and the way I believe has led me towards that path.

    That's all I got....

    Source(s): whoever gave me thumbs down..no problem I expect hatred from you all. Thanks for confirming my suspicions. There are too many evil and nasty vibes here, so I'll leave it. There is nothing any of you can do to take away my serenity and hapiness... you lose.
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Girl,...(if ur Boy,.. then Boy,..)....wat r u trying 2 say that,..they are same,...sure we can go that way,..God is one,...and now 2 ur Q;...as Chris S and Sam,...said everything but i do like 2 say something,...after reading da Comments from users and yours,...again,...Krishna is God,..and not Son of god,...and he was born from his mother womb,..not merely given,...for the million time,...Krishna's mother is not Virgin,...and his parents are not god's or ghost, or any evil Spirit,...they are mortal being's like we,...Kamsa then killed six of their sons,....... the seventh,.... Balarama,..... escaped death by being transferred to the womb of vasudeva's other wife,...... rohini,......while a female child (an incarnation of the goddess Maya) was placed in Yashoda's womb,.......the eighth son, Krishna (who was actually an avatar of Vishnu),.....was born at midnight and taken by Vasudeva across the Yamuna river,....... to be raised by Nanda and Yasoda in the neighboring village of Gokul,.......after Kamsa realised that Krishna had escaped alive,.... Kamsa released Devaki and Vasudeva,..... and they lived in Mathura,...now you people donno where jesus have been for 18 years,...but we know where Krishna had been since his birth 2 death,....

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  • They shouldn't have to explain it or defend what they believe unless they are Christian supremacists, to whom this bit has obviously been addressed. They are the ones causing trouble, so don't just randomly attack all Christians for the beliefs of the stupid few who happen to yell the loudest.

    Most Christians are fully aware that the Bible is errant and take Jesus' message without claiming that the entire thing is faultless and everyone else is going to hell. They don't need to explain or refute those statements because most of them believe that the Bible is just a guide, and the only truly important thing they need to take from it is "Love thy neighbor as thyself."

    Next time, address such a lesson to Christan supremacists who attack other religions and beliefs, oppress atheists, gays, and everyone else that doesn't fit in with their narrow minded view, and not to just "Christians."

    Not making sense is not a good enough reason to attack someone's beliefs. Until they start hurting others (which only some Christians do), it doesn't matter how absurd their beliefs seem. In an ideal world, a person should be able to worship a purple robot with pink polka dots and green feathers, and as long as they are not hurting anyone, they should be treated with respect.

    All this does is turn the peaceful Christians, of which there are many, against everyone else and encourage extremism and supremacy.

    Source(s): Agnostic Wiccan A useful (and encouraging) site: http://www.religioustolerance.org/int_rel22.htm
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    All religions and beliefs have some form of the Truth. Even atheists, although they deny it. Most atheist believe that killing for food or a spouse is wrong. Animals don't have a problem with this at all--they will kill when they need to and it doesn't bother them at all. They will even kill their babies if they have too.

    Why are we so bothered by this? It's because God wrote Truth on ALL human hearts. The Truth permeates space AND TIME. It is no surprise, then, that the pagan beliefs and stories will have similarities to Jesus and other biblical events.

    make no mistake, they are but shadows of the Truth. You can use all the logic you want, and you can use logic to make black look white, but it doesn't change the Truth. Not one bit.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Very interesting stuffs you have written. Being an agnostic minded Christian, I am not about to challenge anything. Do you have any links to the things you have mentioned? I would like to read more about them. Thanks!

    Add:

    Thanks for your reply! =)

    I would like to ask you something though. What do you make of the Book of Revelation? Frankly speaking, that part of the Bible is what kept me on as a Christian.

    Add #2

    Jesus aside, so even the Old Testament is made up? Or you at least do you still think that it's possible that Jehovah God is real?

  • 1 decade ago

    Man, you might have done a lot of research on Christianity, but not on Krishna of Hindu religion which is the religion of 85% of people in India, the country of my origin. Ok let me start from what I as well as other Indians have read from holy books of Hinduism

    1. Principal sources of Krishna's life are the Mahabharat, Bhagavat Geetha, Harivamsa, Bhagavata Purana and Vishnu Purana

    2.Krishna was never called as "son of god", but he is called god, like tens of thousands of other gods in Hinduism.

    3)Krishna is never a part of Hindu trinity, which includes Bhrama (the creator), Vishnu and Shiva (Shiv or Shivan). Vishnu had 10 avatars and Krishna and his elder brother Balarama were two of them.

    4) Krishna's adoptive father was a cowherd, not a carpenter.. Krishna's real father was Vasudevar, the prince of Yadhav dynasty, not a spirit or ghost.

    5) Krishna's uncle, Kamsa wanted to kill all the children of Vasudevar so he imprisoned Krishna's parents. Only Krishna was secretly moved from prison to his adoptive parents. Krishna's parents didnot fled to Mathura, but were in prison until Krishna killed his uncle Kamsa.

    6) Krishna have danced over a serpent's head thus bruising its head, In Genesis 3:15 it says "And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her Seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel.” It means God creating enimity between man and serpent. Jesus didnot bruise any serpants head.

    7) your points 58 and 66 have no evidence what so ever!! Krishna was never said as sinless in any of the above books. He killed his own uncle and a young monk, Hindu scriptures gives accounts of Krishna's sexual relationship with 16108 milk women, and he was the mentor behind Kurukshetra war, and he even justified the murdering of his own cousins and relatives for a good cause.

    8) All divine beings in every religion are considered as omniscient or omnipotent or omnipresent, performing miracles.

    9) No mention of Krishna healing a lepar in any of Hindu holy scriptures!!

    10) Krishna never had disciples, only worshippers. No evidence again for Krishna celebrating his last supper. He never forgave his enemies, he was infavour of killing his cousins (Kauravas) who were his enemies.

    11) Krishna was neither ascended or descended according to hinduism. He was killed inside a forest by a hunter by mistake

    12) And Finally, Krishna's mother was never a virgin. She had seven children by her husband, before the birth of Krishna

    Source(s): Mahabharat, Bhagavat Geetha, and other hindu scriptures from India
  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    The Bible(s) have been written by the view of the writer not by you or me which is likely to have a different interpretation again. We could read the same book (not necessary the bible) mate and we will interpreted differently. The bible is written from memory not as it happened. You should take a look at Buddha or spiritualism, it takes a different view in beliefs.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    Who would want to crucify Krishna?? And what offense? If he was lecherous enough, I suppose he is worthy of crucifixion XD

    Im sure Jesus isnt like that.

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