Question about adoptee's amended birth certificates?

My Amom swore she never got an adoption decree. However the adoption must have gone thru since she and her husband were listed on my ABC. What is bad is that my biological father and I have the same woman as "mother" on our BC's (of course my bio dad is not on my ABC)

The most screwed up ABC I have ever seen tho goes to my best friend. She was also adopted by her bio father's mother. (she was 5 so she always knew she was adopted). Her ABC has her grandmother down as "mother" age of "mother" at birth was 56 and guess who is listeed as "father"...Her biological father!!!. So if you are doing her geneology, it looks like her grandmother got pregnant by her own son and had a baby at 56 years old. (I know this is Arkansas and all but geeze)

One morbid thought I had after looking at my ABC was that awoman could commit a murder, adopt a child that was born on the day she murdered someone and get away with it...after all, she has a legal document showing that she was in a hospital miles away giving birth that day...

I'm still mulling this one over. I haven't thought much about it before, to be honest. My first reaction, is No. Not when the adoptee is still a minor. The records belong to the adoptee, with access by the legal parents (which would be the adoptive parents). I don't think it's any different than any other kind of privacy. I don't think that the natural family should automatically have access to the minor adoptee's medical records, school records, etc. I do think the threat of identity theft is valid, but that's not the most compelling reason. When the adoptee becomes an adult, then he/she can allow whomever he/she wants to have access to those records. If there is a question of coersion, however, I think the natural parents should have a legal route available, in order to access the records. Such as, being able to file a petition in a court of law. ETA: Mamakate, read up on identity theft. You'd be surprised what someone can do with a birth certificate.

I have a copy of my son's amended birth certificate, and I am his natural mother.

The file date was stamped on the ABC, as being the same date as the date his OBC was filed. This was only 6 days after he was born. At that time, I had not surrendered him and was still fighting to keep him.

I did not surrender him until he was 2 weeks old. His adoptive parents got him when he was a little over a month old.

The "medical" information on the ABC was correct. It listed my ob/gyn, the hospital, date and time of birth, birth weight.

There was an additional section, which had been removed from the copy of the ABC which I have, but I remember that it was there when I signed the OBC. This section had additional medical details such as 'forceps delivery."

California law only allows the "mother, father, and the child" to have that additional medical information. So, my son's adoptive mother can get personal medical details about me on her copy of the ABC. I can't get those details, and they are actually a part of my medical record.

I was able to get the ABC after I found out my son's new adoptive name.

I cannot get the OBC.....which I signed, and which has the correct information on it.

As for the syph test...my mother was tested for that when I was born in the 40s and I think all mothers were. There is a record of that on my birth certificate, from NY.

Until the 1970s, couples had to be tested for syph when they applied for a marriage license also.

The info on my ABC is my changed name, date, time, and place of birth, my adoptive parents names, ages, occupations, and current residence, the name of the doctor, and the date filed which was presumably the date the obc was filed since my ap's didn't even know me on the date listed. The most curious thing I found is that, according to my ABC, my amom was a housewife. She worked at a bank. She had a full time job with benefits. Her income was higher than my adad's. I'm not sure what was up with that.

Yes, they got an official adoption decree. It was standard issue, required by state law at the time they adopted. It was finalized in 1967 in Iowa.

My friend was showing me his amended birth certificate-- I forget how it came up, the subject wasn't adoption, I think we were actually talking about DMV requirements-- and he's Canadian, so they get wallet-sized copies, and I got to see one.

Most of it was what you would expect. It listed the name his adoptive parents gave him, not the name from his first parents did (they had named him on his OBC,) and his adoptive parents as the mother and father who conceived him, which of course isn't true. All the other information was accurate as far as he knew.

The one thing that I found weird, though, was that it was date stamped two weeks after his birth. He was over a year old when he was placed as a foster child with the family who adopted him, and finalization usually takes 6-12 months. So apparently the certificate was dated with when it would have been filed if he'd been born to them, not the actual date it was filed following his adoption. I found that kind of surprising...

Linny, what state were you born in? That does not sound like a "Birth Certificate" in most states - it sounds like what is called the Certificate of Live Birth issued by the hospital, which in turn - at least in Pennsylvania, is sent to the state to issue the original birth certificate which is then sealed and the Amended Birth Certificate is issued. Some states call what the hospital sends to Vital Record to issue the Birth Certificate - "Birth Record"

I know that's very confusing.

What is yours actually titled? Is it a certified copy? It must be if it has a seal on it.

Weird - all these forms to deceive....

I've seen my son's original and amended and nothing is on either one that lists weight of child or any kind of medical testing that I went through.

Maybe it's different in PA but his amended only has his adoptive parents names, his dob, city and I think that's it....

Yes, we have an official Adoption Decree. Two of them in fact. One from my children's home country (they do not issue Amended birth certificates) and one when we re-adopted them in the US, issued by the state in which we live. The latter was a requirement and the Amended birth certificate was generated from this.

As to the syphilis test, it was required by our state as well as part of our pre-homestudy physical examinations. We also had to be tested for HIV, hepatitis and a few other things. These tests aren't listed on the children's ABCs or our adoption decrees, however.

My ABC is even more bare bones than yours. There is no weight, length, hospital or doctor. Is it any wonder I felt like I came from an adoption agency instead of a hospital via a woman?

There is my APs manes listed as mother and father, my adopted name, and my birthday.

Being in the UK, I didn't get an ABC. UK gives an Adoption Certificate (which confuses the frak out of employers who have to go and look up to find out if they can use one instead of a BC), or a 'short' BC which which has just my (a)name on it. Thus sadly, no amusing stories to share.

Nope have never seen my daughter's ABC, nor has she ever spoke of her ABC in the almost 11 years we have been reunited. She or I have never seen her OBC either...she has no interest in obtaining her OBC...even though she now can....since I filled out the very, very intrusive state medical questionaire about 5 years ago, in order for her to have access to her OBC in the state she was born in. Maybe it made for some interesting reading for some state office clerk.