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sociald asked in Politics & GovernmentPolitics · 1 decade ago

So is the AZ immigration law unfair?

Came across this

MEXICO CITY (AP) - Amnesty International called the abuse of migrants in Mexico a major human rights crisis Wednesday, and accused some officials of turning a blind eye or even participating in the kidnapping, rape and murder of migrants.

..Central American migrants are frequently pulled off trains, kidnapped en masse, held at gang hideouts and forced to call relatives in the U.S. to pay off the kidnappers. Such kidnappings affect thousands of migrants each year in Mexico, the report says.

At present, Article 67 of Mexico's Population Law says, "Authorities, whether federal, state or municipal ... are required to demand that foreigners prove their legal presence in the country, before attending to any issues."

And there is about half a dozen articles that could be linked regarding murders by the cartels. I guess I cant blame immigrants for wanting to get the hell out of there, however the usa .. even this AZ law.. treats immigrants better than Mexico does.

Mexico requires their officials to demand you prove your right to be in the country.

Update:

What could be done to help this... end Nafta and Cafta? National guard to the border towns to help combat the cartels?

Amnesty is not going to fix the murders and cartels issue.

Update 2:

Live 4 ... how do you know they dont? you think they can easily differentiate between a guatamalan, honduran, el salvadoran, or someone from southern mexico without stopping them? come on use some sense.

Update 3:

Dave87, im not a republican.

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  • Spook
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago
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    The 1st link below shows how you will be treated as a US citizen entering Mexico illegally or for that fact the hoops that have to be jumped through if legal entry is wanted.

    AZ is only responding to the situation that is costing them in lives and economy. Had the politicians not ignored the problem just to gain illegal votes at the polls, there would be no problem Amnesty is not the answer, you do not reward illegal acts while slapping those who entered legally in the face. Obama thinks that if he grants amnesty that the illegal vote will turn out in favor of the Democrats. An brother do they ever need them now. That is why they are slamming AZ so badly, they may have some of their votes sent back south of the border where they belong.

    If our government would cease and desist giving out food stamps, free or subsidized housing and free health care, they would not come here to have their anchor babies. It is not just business that encourages them, but Democrat giveaway programs too.

    Problems associated with illegal aliens (annual average since 1950)

    31,000 deaths (10K murder)(21K traffic accidents). 10.5 billion annual cost to the economy. 9 to 10 million jobs, check link below.

    Diseases found among them: Polio, malaria, yellow fever, cholera and many others.

    The second link gives the jobs held by illegals, some are not that bad.

  • Anonymous
    5 years ago

    It's my knowledge that Arizona's new legislation does no longer arbitrarily give up persons and ask for evidence of citizenship. This happens provided that the man or woman is detained for a legit intent. I'm getting instead worn out of the dimwits who insist that having any person end up that they're a authorized citizen, even if vote casting in an election or making use of for social offerings, come what may violates their rights.

  • LeAnne
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    It's my understanding that Arizona's new law does not arbitrarily stop people and ask for proof of citizenship. This occurs only if the person is detained for a legitimate reason.

    I'm getting rather tired of the dimwits who insist that having anyone prove that they are a legal citizen, even when voting in an election or applying for social services, somehow violates their rights.

  • 1 decade ago

    It's not unfair. It only enforces the immigration laws on the books. The real question is whether or not a state is allowed to pass such a law, since Immigration is a federal concern, and federal law trumps state law.

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  • 1 decade ago

    The way I understand it is that the police can only check your documentation if you are suspected of committing a crime, arrested, or pulled over for violating a traffic law. As long as somebody behaves and doesn't draw negative attention to themselves, nothing happens. And using race to profile and suspect somebody is prohibited.

    To me that is fair. However, if the police were to abuse this and harass people who just "look like immigrants" to them...then that is wrong.

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

    Personally, I thought it was pretty clear that this bull sh*t law violates the fourth amendment (stated above)... I guess now everybody in AZ should just carry around their birth certificate... (hmmm... that won't be too weird).

  • Anonymous
    1 decade ago

    It is not Unfair...

    Arizona Did what needed to be done..

    And its already Illegal, but Obama could car eless about that (The Arizona law says it is illegal for the presently Illegakl things to be done.)

    Watch Closely.. Obama is Waffling and just making noise, for his own reasons.

    You will see.... "The Republicans Did it" so HERE WE COME = Rhetoric.

    Only Fox will give you accurate on this matter.

    Fox has Picked APART the Media Delusional Bias.

    Source(s): No Kool-Aid for me, Thanks.
  • NO, those same laws are in our constitution but are not being upheld. the only thing that has changed is that they are giving police more authority to ask for proof of citizenship. pretty soon AZ will be the best state to live in.

  • 1 decade ago

    NO! Absolutely not. And besides, how is it our law enforcement folks can be referred to by "America's Finest" one minute, and then suddenly become "Racist Profilers?" There's a bit of forked tongue diatribe I believe.

  • 5280
    Lv 6
    1 decade ago

    It is NOT unfair!

    They want to do something illegal then they can suffer the consequences like everyone else in this country. Why give them any special treatment?

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