Atheist, Agnostic, and Christians what do you think about this?

sounds about right

Just a few things.

1) Albert Einstein didn't believe in God. To quote him " my god is the God of Spinoza". Google Spinoza and you'll see what that means. Vvveerrrrryyyyy different from your standard God.

2) Even if Albert Einstein did believed, it wouldn't mean anything. That's an appeal to authority and it's a logical fallacy.

3) speaking of logical fallacies, this person complains that an angry Christian hasn't studied logic but it seems like this person hasn't either.

4) invisible and imaginary are two very different things. Atheist don't contest that there are things we can't see, just that there is no God. What he's saying here is also a red herring(another logical fallacy for our logical Christian)

5) Regarding what was said about crimes and cruelties committed by atheist, it's true that people have done terrible things and were also atheists. Any atheists who doesn't know this should learn. However, many atheists already know this. When bringing up the fact that Christians have done horrible things it's often just our way of pointing out the fact that, for a group of people that get guidance directly from the source or morality and law, your an pretty average bunch when it comes to actually being moral.

Other then these 5 things I see no problem with this. I think it's mostly true.

The problem with this is that you're creating a group of people that doesn't exist. Atheists are not like Christians. We don't go to meetings, talk about what we believe in, or spend time together JUST because we're atheists. As a matter of fact, being atheist doesn't require anything besides not believing in a god.

People who are atheist can do bad things, but it's not because we have some sort of code that says "If you're atheist, go bomb a christian's car! that'll show em!"

On the other hand, Christians DID have a conduct code that basically said "if they're not Christian, kill them". Especially in the crusades and stuff like that.

Christians like to corral atheists into a group so they can make atheists out to be a bad group even though there is no such thing.

Wrong wrong wrong. Just more proof of the blatant ignorance of Christians.

1. Einstein was a Pantheist and vehemently against organized religion like Christianity

2. Slavery and murder is perfectly ok with god. In fact, God regularly condoned slavery in the Bible. He even said it was ok for fathers to sell their daughters into sex slavery.

Read the book of Joshua. God demands the Israeli army kill every man, WOMAN, and CHILD in dozens of cities. Killing innocent children and elderly is not only ok with god, it is demanded by him.

3. Over 90% of scientists are Atheists or Agnostics.

4. "Think of the millions murdered in the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact, in communist China, Cambodia, and elsewhere." That was done under Communism ideology. Communism is a political/economic ideology. Not atheism. That is like saying the KKK is Christian because it has some minor Christian components in its racial ideology. The goal of the communists was not to spread atheism. Also, Stalin was a devout Christian who was nearly about to become a priest. Look it up.

More flawed arguments from ignorant Christians.

Your friend is simply an "apologist".

There is no moral problem with the use of adult stem cells.

Pro-Life advocates (like Catholics) believe that life is a sacred gift from God and needs to be treated with all human dignity from the moment of conception to the point of natural death.

For this reason, the destruction of living human embryos to harvest embryonic stem cells is immoral.

• The end never justifies the means

• A moral good can never come from a moral evil

Here are just a few of the common myths about Stem Cell Research:

Myth: Stem cells can only come from embryos.

Truth: Stem cells can be taken from:

• Umbilical cords

• The placenta

• Amniotic fluid

• Adult tissues and organs including bone marrow, fat from liposuction, regions of the nose and even dead bodies up to 20 hours after death

Myth: The Catholic Church is against stem cell research.

Truth: The Catholic Church approves three of the four types of stem cell research:

• Against Embryonic stem cells

• For Embryonic germ cells (from miscarriages)

• For Umbilical cord stem cells

• For Adult stem cells

Myth: Embryonic stem cell research has the greatest promise

Fact: Up to now, no human being has ever been cured of a disease using embryonic stem cells. Adult stem cells, on the other hand, have already cured thousands. There is the example of the use of bone marrow cells from the hipbone to repair scar tissue on the heart after heart attacks. Research using adult cells is 20-30 years ahead of embryonic stem cells and holds greater promise.

Based on the “The Ten Great Myths in the Debate Over Stem Cell Research” by Tadeusz Pacholczyk, Ph.D. http://www.ncbcenter.org/10Myths.pdf

Adult stem cells are currently used for the medical treatment of:

• Anemias

• Cancers (multiple types)

• Child Leukemias

• Cornea Regeneration

• Crohn´s Disease

• Diabetes, Type I

• Heart Disease, Acute & Chronic

• Krabbe Leukodystrophy

• Liver Cirrhosis

• Lupus

• Lymphomas

• Myelomas

• Multiple Sclerosis

• Paralysis

• Osteopetrosis

• Parkinson´s Disease

• Rheumatoid Arthritis

• Severe Combined Immunodeficiency Syndrome

• Sickle Cell Anemia

• Spinal Cord Injury

• Stroke

• Systemic Vasculitis

• and more

For more information, see the National Catholic Bioethics Center’s resources on stem cell research: http://www.ncbcenter.org/stemcell.asp

And:

http://stemcellcures.org/

http://www.stemcellresearch.org/

Here is "Instruction Dignitas Personae on Certain Bioethical Questions" that Pope Benedict XVI gave to President Obama: http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cf...

With love in Christ.

Dark matter can be "observed" as giant chunks of mass that, though invisible, still show up through gravitational lensing. Dark energy is just the energy *implied* by the constant expansion of the universe.

What you're saying is that nobody should be ignorant, everyone needs to be reasonable and try to work out a sane way of living and advancing humanity, so right on!

I think it would be unimaginal that an atheist would turn into a christian. Unless of course they got kicked in the head by a horse. I don't think you understand how christianity, New Testament, came into being. In order for the New Testament to have been the truth, then the creator god of the O.T. would have had to create many things and use them for thousands of years and then throw them aside like trash for christianity to become. There have been billions over the years and millions today that love the O.T. god and believe in this god that this god doesn't work in that mannor. Before god created any of the universe as we know it, god created many Son's of God and used them in every evil way known for 1000's of years. This creator god had a favorate created son., I personaly do not understand how any creator god could have a favorate of anything it created, but it is told god does. These non human created son's were only called son's because god gave them human male reproductive organs. Humans had not been created yet, so these were mostly decorative organs to make them son's and not daughters. As I said, god used these son's in many ways and never punished any of the son's at any time in the O.T. for anything they did, because the only things they did, god created them to do. So, it is hard for me and billions of other people to believe the catholic writeing the N.T. when they say that God turned these created son's of god into fallen angels and disband the son's heaven that god made for them and also turned gods favorate son, Lucifer, into Satan. If the catholics are right on this point, then I for one would not want this two faced god anyplace in my life.

This is where I got stuck: "Atheists and agnostics enjoy baiting and ridiculing Christians" Yes, it never goes the other way around. No one ever gleefully tells me I'm going to burn in a pit of fire for all eternity with no mercy given. No one calls my friends fags and sinners.

My own dad hates gay people. Christians persecute too. My whole family is full of liberal hating Christians who hate lots of people.

Being an atheist doesn't mean I know everything or understand the whole universe. I leave that to people who have devoted their life's work to that pursuit. I'm here to raise my children, bake, sew and be awesome.

Sorry if I'm stupid, but I don't see how dark energy and dark matter proves the existence of God. I thought God is of infinite knowledge and power (as I have been told by Christians). If this is true, then you cannot put a percentage on it, and therefore, God is not this dark energy and dark matter as your friend claims.

"Atheists and agnostics tend to forget the fact that millions have been murdered in history by people who said they were atheists"

really ?...by who exactly and these people?

"Think of the millions murdered in the Soviet Union and Warsaw Pact, in communist China, Cambodia, and elsewhere"

Really?....the countries named are predominately religious mist notiby buddhism in Cambodia

lets face it, those who were driven by some religious belief have done far more damage in terms of crimes commited than those who did not have a religious belief

If you're going to bring up Einstein, he supported the possibility of Spinoza's god, not a personal god.

Deism and pantheism are not all that different from atheism. There is no dogmatic scripture to sear into your mind, so they are all freethinking models for belief.