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How can we know Obama's real, legal name?
Serious question. Please, only serious answers.
I read Obama's book, Dreams From My Father. He mentions living in Indonesia, having an Indonesian passport, and then using it to fly to Pakistan in 1981.
Obama's legal name in Indonesia was Barry Soetero. It was not a nickname but his official, legal name. You cannot register for school with anything except the legal name, and that was Barry Soetero. He was still using this in college until he got involved in more "soul searching" and wanted to emphasize his ethnic roots.
If Barry Soetero was his legal name, and had a passport under this name, when did he change it back to Barack Hussein Obama?
The long form birth certificate shown on WhiteHouse.gov has been exposed as a crude falsification. There are videos showing the entire process from start to finish: opening the document, putting it in Adobe Acrobat, then peeling apart the layers. It is a forgery.
The long form birth certificate shown on WhiteHouse.gov has been exposed as a crude falsification. There are videos showing the entire process from start to finish: opening the document, putting it in Adobe Acrobat, then peeling apart the layers. It is a forgery.
I swear Liberals are the most intellectually (and otherwise) lazy people on the planet!
To: Libraryanna---
If you BOTHERED to look online, you can actually see, STEP BY STEP, a documents expert opening the long form birth certificate and proving it is a fake. It is composed of LAYERS. A real scanned document would just be one surface level. His has 9 layers.
Regarding that famous birth announcement in the Hawaiian newspaper, that was often based on a state-issued “Certification of Live Birth” which, is insufficient alone, for State Department officials to document the birthplace. Let's imagine Obama's mother gave birth in Kenya. Once she registers his birth, the Hawaiian newspapers back in that time would automatically issue exactly what you read.
Regarding Mitt Romney, even though his father was born in another country (Mexico) the father became a citizen. Obama should never have been allowed to run. His father was never a U.S. citizen. That violates the Supreme Court definition of a Natural Born Citizen
. http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/supreme-cour...
Liberals, why do Conservatives have to educate you? Why do your answers always consist of poorly researched garbage? Don't ANY of you have something substantive to contribute?????????
6 Answers
- LibraryannaLv 79 years agoFavorite Answer
It is NOT an effin' serious question. What the hell difference does it make. WIthout evidence to the contrary, the name on his long form birth certificate, which IS valid (you have zero proof otherwise) is his legal name.
How come you don't get all over Romney for having a father from another country who may not have come here legally? He doesn't use his legal name?
Oh wait, he's white, so it's okay.
You cannot be taken seriously when you make statements about crude fabrications of the long form birth certificate. Especially when you have no proof of that except the words of people who are not experts appointed by some wacko sheriff. I suppose you think the birth announcement in the paper is not valid either. They made it up on the off chance that a black baby born in the early 1960s was going to be president.
He has shown legal, valid, long and short form birth certificates. You are an embarrassment to yourself to insist otherwise. Even if he were not born in this country, he is still a legal natural born citizen. Certainly as much as Mitt is.
You have no proof of anything. Crawl back into your hole. Your tin hat is failing you.
Edit: Wow, with each addition, stupider and stupider. Certificates of live birth did NOT exist in the 1960s, only birth certificates. And again, why would there be a notice in a 1960's newspaper of a birth that didn't occur. And you are claiming that she gave birth, immediately hopped on a plane, and had an announcement put in the paper of a birth claiming it happened in Hawaii. And why would she do this? You people really lack the logic gene.
Your "expert" is nothing of the sort. If it were at all reasonable, don't you think everyone running against Obama, from Hillary on, wouldn't have used it?
Obama's mother was a US citizen, so even if he were born in Kenya it wouldn't make any difference, he would still be a natural born citizen as much as Romney is.
YOU don't have anything substantive to contribute. Just the rantings of a racist who can't accept that black man born as a US citizen is indeed president of the US.
Go to a shrink. Get your medications.
By the way - I have an IQ in the genius range and two graduate degrees. Did you even finish high school? Talk about intellectually lazy... You can't even think logically about this for a minute.
By they way, a certificate of live birth is enough to prove your birth place. I used one to get my passport.
There is zero evidence, none, of Obama being born anywhere other than Hawaii and zero evidence that his name is anything other than what he claims.
But once again. WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHAT HIS NAME IS AND WHY WOULD HE LIE ABOUT HIS NAME? More logic failure on your part.
Fail.
Source(s): Retired lawyer. Got an A in logic. - Whatever4Lv 79 years ago
Obama's book does NOT say he flew to Pakistan on an Indonesian passport. His book doesn't mention Pakistan AT ALL. When you start out with such blatant falsehoods, there's nowhere to go but further into the abyss.
Obama used the name Barry Soetero only in Indonesia. He used the name Barry Obama in school in the US. Check his yearbook photos for 5th grade: http://www.craigdailypress.com/news/2009/jan/25/cl... Check his
There's no evidence at all that Obama legally changed his name to Soetoro. None. The school record shows what his parents registered him as. Plenty of kids go to school under names that aren't their legal names. People like William Jefferson Blythe III (President Clinton) and Leslie Lynch King, Jr (President Ford) for example. Both legally changed their names years after using the new name in school.
There are also videos showing how opening ANY PDF in Illustrator creates layers. It's how Illustrator works. You also can't tell anything about a paper document's authenticity by looking at a PDF file of it. http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2011/07/new-videos-...
None of Sheriff Arpaio's "Experts" were actual unbiased experts, and nothing the Cold Case Posse uncovered was new. It has all been debunked for more than a year. http://www.thefogbow.com/arpaio-report/
The definition of natural born citizen has always meant birth in the US regardless of the citizenship of the parents. Always. "Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity." William Rawle, A view of the Constitution of the United States of America (1825). http://naturalborncitizenshipresearch.blogspot.com...
I bet I've done far more actual research than you have. Here's some more of MY research: http://www.thefogbow.com/special-reports/people-re...
Source(s): I am a moderate, was a Republican for more than 30 years until 2010. It's idiots like the Birthers that make Conservatives and Republicans look total idiots. - keaLv 44 years ago
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- wendy cLv 79 years ago
Please...
don't embarrass yourself by applying to the Indonesian Legal bar, or anywhere else.
"you can't use anything but your legal name".
Pure bull. I USED my stepfather's last name in school, with NO adoption at any time. What persons did or didn't do, in Indonesia is your pure fantasy.
This is A SERIOUS ANSWER...
You CANNOT USE biased and exaggerated websites for an education. You are as gullible as anyone I have ever seen.
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- Nova KaneLv 59 years ago
Obama is the grandson of Joseph Stalin. The secret service blacked out that part of his family tree.