theists why are you so against proving god is real?

The only way primitive religion exists today is through the child abuse of forcing it into very, very young children but thanks to better education and growing intellects so many teens are able to discover the truth, throw off the indoctrination and step into the real world!

Academia states that in the absence of any sort of evidence of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable evidence is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.

The bible is what is called "Faction" A fictional story set in a factual time and place. Thus the time, place and real historical characters are all correct but the fictional characters and stories are not!

There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!

There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!

He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?

Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!

Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!

At best he was an amalgam of those others but almost certainly never existed!

The Roman Emperor Constantine produced the bible and he was a pagan not god! He took the Jewish religion, organized it into Christianity and then into the Holly Roman Catholic Church!! Not in Israel or any of the countries of supposed origin but entirely ITALIAN!

Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?

What a wonder full disinformation and deception campaign he waged against his Jewish enemies by turning them into his invented Christianity - so good in fact that Christians are still following the deception to this day!

The first person to provide a shred of verifiable evidence for God will become world famous and mega rich! Ain't happened yet and it never will!

So how does this primitive belief in a god survive? The answer is simple and very down to Earth

Acceptance of a supernatural claim tends to promote cooperative social relationships. This communication demonstrates a willingness to accept, without skepticism, the influence of the speaker in a way similar to a child's acceptance of the influence of a parent. By encouraging this kind of behavior where the most intense social relationships occur it facilitates the lack of skepticism and deters more open minded thinking.

They are christian, Muslim or the other religions depending where they were born simply because they were indoctrinated by their parents as very young children. They will go on to indoctrinate their own children and those will go on to indoctrinate their grandchildren!

Atheists have the intellect to see through the conditioning and escape into the real world!

Agnostics have the intellect to see through the conditioning but lack the courage to throw of the conditioning entirely.

Sadly Christians, muslims and others are still held firmly prisoner by the self perpetuating brainwashing!

There is plenty of evidence of God. Do you not see Intelligent design all around you? Do you believe that a builder built the Pyramids? Can you prove it?..It is obvious that an Intelligent designer built the pyramids, and just as obvious that an Intelligent designer created everything into existence. Do you honestly believe that the original finite particles that created all that you see around you came from nothing (hint:finite, which means they had to be created by something to exist)? Matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed so how does it then exist as a finite physical thing? I can answer that simply - Something in the nature of being Infinite and Metaphysical would be the only answer because the two are outside of the realms and laws of physics and thermodynamics. God is Infinite and of the metaphysical. In order to not violate the laws of Physics, you cannot believe that something came from nothing. Did you know that the bible talk about Dinosaurs? And it says that they lived with man here on Earth. How would man over 2,000-4,000 years ago even know about Dinos if they have been extinct for millions of years? Did you know that the bible is used to find Archaeological findings and teachings? The newest is the Slide recently found with Bethlehem written on it. Once called a Fairytale of a place is now proven to have existed! Oh, and 100's of prophecies have been fulfilled perfectly over a period recorded over 5,000 years, and a fairly recent one in 1948 when Israel was brought back to their land as foretold. In Isaiah 49:13-17, the Lord makes it clear that even though the people of Israel are to be exiled from their land, the Lord will never forget them, and the Lord would eventually bring the exiles back to their homeland.

How is there no evidence? I can keep going if you would like, as I have much more to offer as proof.

Why would anyone look to science to prove something that is outside the limitations of science. Science is a method of discovery and explanation of the physical world and uses only that which is in the physical world for such discovery. It makes no sense to demand proof through science for God. God is UNLIMITED AND GREATER THAN THIS WORLD. SCIENCE ISN'T DESIGNED FOR THE UNLIMITED.

Science is a particular academic discipline among many others, and a particular way of getting knowledge about the world. But it is not the only such discipline or only such way. Furthermore, it is conducted by fallible humans, just like every other discipline, and therefore is just as liable to error. People seem to think that by making “science” impersonal and abstract, it somehow makes it infallible. But science doesn’t show anything- that’s just a bad metaphor. Particular scientists conduct experiments from which they infer certain general laws or explanations. There’s no reason why we should prioritize that form of knowledge over any other, no less use the word “science” as if it is some infallible arbiter that can settle all our disputes for us.

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STICK TO LOGIC -

What brought the universe into existence? It would have to be greater than the universe and be a sufficient cause to it. The Bible promotes this sufficient cause as God. What does atheism offer instead of God? If nothing, then atheism is not able to account for our own existence.

LEARN FROM SCIENCE... Apply the information you have and test it. Apply Gods word to your life and test it. The proof is in the "PUTTING"(PUDDING). Until you accept that God is greater and apply his teachings you will see no proof. Upon application and faithfulness, the proof is clear and undeniable!

*** NOW YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO JUSTIFY YOUR IGNORANCE THROUGH LYING. HOW DID I CHANGE ANYTHING? HOW DID I MAKE IT FIT, AS YOU SAY?

"CHANGE MY THEORY TO FIT THE EVIDENCE"? THAT DESCRIBES YOU MY FRIEND, NOT ME! MY THEORY IS IN THE BIBLE. IT HAS BEEN IN BLACK AND WHITE FOR 1000'S OF YEARS! ITS NOT CHANGING!

****Carl Sagan, the atheist, once said "If we can get only one intelligent message from outer space we'll know there is intelligent life out there." Here’s the funny thing: when the archaeologist goes into a cave and sees some scratches on the wall, he determines an intelligent mind has been there. We have 600,000 pages of digital information in one strand of DNA and there are actually people who want to say there was no intelligent source to it?

Matter before mind? Honest science says that just ain’t so. Even J. S. Mill, no friend to Christianity, said: “It is self-evident that only mind can create mind.”

I can not reply your query given that it assumes I can not preserve my religion, that's comfortably now not real. Rephrase your query and I will preserve Christianity in opposition to different religions, notably atheism. You don't move up in opposition to educated Christians very frequently, I see. I make an apology for that. Apologists like myself, don't use round good judgment or fallacies. We additionally don't difference God to serve us. We comply with God because the bible indicates us. Your declare that we make up our possess picture of God is baseless and fake. You most commonly do not even recognise what we particularly feel

That's not possible. It's something you know, or you just don't. God is like a super-personal force. You can only feel Him subjectively. God is not material, but spiritual.

Here's the problem with trying to "prove" God - if God created the entire universe, then He is outside of it. We are just not sophisticated enough to understand the true nature of God with our limitations. Also, we're just a creation, and we may not be able to comprehend the Whole.

Theists aren't against proving that God is real. Believe me, if they had any sort of proof they would be shoving it down your throat and shouting it from the roof tops. Most of them seem to think that the bible is proof enough. For the critical and logical thinkers, this is usually not enough.

"proof" is something of math or science...

"faith" is what religion has, not 'proof'....

don't mix apples and oranges...that's like trying to play baseball with a football...

this should be so obvious....this world has separated science and religion so far that how could any LOGICAL person even try to think of one on the same terms as the other!?

seriously...

stop trying to be so slick and argumentative and just "think" for a change...

If you cared you would find it and not stop til your mind said "I know the Truth' You are a fraud. Of that I am POSITIVE.

One's belief is their proof. The people who need more tangible proof, like me, simply don't believe.

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