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A question about Justice to theists (legitimate question)?

So theists (specifically from the Abrahamic faiths: Judiasm, Christianity, Islam) why do you seek forms of justice here on earth.

Why worry about bringing justice to a perceived bad person in this world when you know your god will deliver the perfect form of justice? Your god knows everything and is perfect so his deliverance of justice will be perfect. Meanwhile, our justice system is built upon laws and the judgements and perceptions of humans. We are very limited and imperfect. We get things wrong. We make punishments too light or too heavy.

So why even bother with delivering justice to a murder or thief in this world when eventually he/she will be judged and sentenced by your god?

Update:

Edit: "Really? You have to ask the question? Crimes with no consequences?"

That is my point. Crimes, according to your ideology, DO have consequences because your god will eventually punish all criminals. So even if a person steals his whole life and is never caught by a cop, he will still be punished by God because god will know.

My point is, what is the purpose of our justice system if God is the ultimate and perfect justice system?

Update 2:

Edit: No Judd, I was not trying to refute anything. I was legitimately curious about the philosophical implications of justice among theists. Your answer is great and very well explained.

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  • Judd
    Lv 4
    8 years ago
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    The main reason: because God told us to set up courts. We are supposed to take the necessary steps to protect the innocent knowing that we can only do our best and mistakes will happen.

    If someone harms you, you take him to court and the court will decide based on the laws that God set out in the Torah. If a mistake is made, God will remedy it but we still need to try our best.

    (The same is true about many things like health, for example. God decides when we live and die so why not just party all day and night and throw caution into the wind? Because God said that although He will decide, we should take all the steps to keep ourselves alive within the parameters that He set.)

    I know that you weren't looking for an answer as I suspect that you were presenting this "question" as a refute.

    EDIT: I apologize. I jumped to a conclusion and I was wrong. Wrong on the conclusion and wrong to jump. My apologies.

    Source(s): Jewish
  • 8 years ago

    because if you won't punish criminals, crimes will skyrocket. The high rate of crime in the US is because the criminals don't get adequate punishment. An example: I am 20, i rape, get sentenced for 7 years. I come back and i am 27 and i rape again, I go for 7 more years. So in my lifetime, i will have the opportunity to rape at least 5 women. Contrast that in Saudi, I rape and I am executed in public which will protect at least 4 more women from this heinous crime but also scare the future rapists that their crime will not be tolerated.

  • This clearly illustrates that sectarian control freaks heavily abuse their false authority sectarian construct for their main argument for sectarian-correct control of total non-affiliated strangers.

    Non-religiously-correct logic has zero chance of penetrating the religious dissonance crutch of sectarian control freaks thought process.

    The only practical excuse for punishing, harassing or pillorying individuals for open refusal to obey proxy sectarian authority object, "directives/restrictions" sans evidence is the fact that without total sectarian constructs saturating the very secular fabric of American society, most people would ignore the constant hyperbolic drivel being spewed by sectarian control freaks.

    The only actual punishment sectarian control freaks can realistically impose upon individuals depends entirely upon the willingness of society to allow sectarian control freaks to openly circumvent secular society's civil laws/regulations that already restrict human behavior therefore making sectarian "double jeopardy" restrictions entirely redundant and unnecessary, just like the corrosive perpetual existence of most present-day religions/cults.

    Source(s): historical perspective
  • NDMA
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    We have to live on this earth. Without some system of justice to impose a level of order that life would be quite inconvenient at best.

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  • 8 years ago

    Good point. Christians live like they don't truly believe in heaven and hell, they make friends with non-christians who, according to their beliefs, are sinners going to hell, and often don't even attempt to convert them so they can be 'saved'. I find it hard to believe that christians are okay with everyone around them burning in hell for eternity. They get upset when people they know die, even thought they'll see them soon in heaven. They worry immensely about little things like exams and deadlines, which are really only going to affect their life on earth, which is insignificant compared to the eternity they will spend in heaven. It all just shows that, deep down, christians don't truly believe what they say they do.

  • 8 years ago

    The Bible/God himself require respect for human authorities and obedience to their laws and processes that don't conflict with Bible commands.

    Romans 13 KJV

    King James Version (KJV)

    13 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

    2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

    3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

    4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

    5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

    6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

    7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

    The Bible requires speaking the truth with all people in and out of the faith, paying Caesar's things to Caesar (taxes) and such.

    The point of human justice and allowing it for a time is to keep the evil down, to keep things from being worse than they could be while the rise and fall of world powers and other Bible prophecies are being fulfilled including the worldwide preaching work. Matthew 24:14, Micah 4:1-5.

    When human law contradicts God's commands though like demanding they not preach, we must obey God as ruler rather than men. Acts 5:29

    There is much more in the Bible about how to treat human governments and those outside the faith.

    Debbie

  • 8 years ago

    The purpose is to deter the average person from a life of crime against their fellow man.

    "A lock only keeps an honest person honest"

  • 8 years ago

    If they truley were (christian in my case) they wouldent. The bible tells us not to, it says do not judge, that includes, my I say, our right to Judge Justice and vengeance. If someone was truly religious, they would have enough humility to let go of whatever act offended them in the first place.

  • FROG E
    Lv 7
    8 years ago

    Really? You have to ask the question? Crimes with no consequences?

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