A question for Atheists (not an attack)?

So far as I know there is nothing in quantum entanglement that presupposes or provides evidence for a sentient universal consciousness. That is a large, subjective assumption made most often by those in the realms of pseudo science that takes real science from a field like physics and marries it to all kinds of extraneous subjective esoteric ideas and assumptions based on at best speculation. Even if there were something along those lines there would seem to be no real reason to presume it were a god in any traditional sense of the word or practical application in life. It would be a bit akin to those I've heard say energy is universal and immortal and all life emanates from it so energy is god. A pointless and arbitrary application of the word god to natural phenomenon in my view.

"I, however, do not use this term because it confines me to a box "

Atheist. I am an Atheist. I am a Christian Atheist. I am an Atheist Muslim Buddhist. I am a Christian Muslim Taoist Hare Krishna.

I am a Pure Atheist. Never been converted to any kind of god belief since birth. Am I in a box?

LOL...of course not. Pure Atheist today...Christian Muslim Taoist Hare Krishna tomorrow, if I so choose to be.

As far as religion/non-religion goes...THERE ARE NO RULES. Not for truly free men allowed to think freely.

Never heard of no "science" that is seeking to prove the existence of some kind of "universal consciousness"...must be creation science which is not science at all but pure fantasy and pipe dreams.

What makes you assume all atheists are scientists? You think I worship Darwin? LOL

Human scientists are human scientists...do you know they have only physically stepped foot on the MOON? The ants have yet to even leave the anthill. Best they got for what is out there in the VASTNESS of the Universe is GUESSES.

The topic is "DOES A SUPREME BEING CREATOR GOD EXIST"...wtf does quantum physics have to do with proving the existence or non-existence of a supreme being? I do know that quantum physicists are NOT trying to find god through quantum physics, they are only concerned with HOW things work, not the WHY.

I could view a pile of my stinking poop as an "observable" conscious higher power and I could claim that my poop is a conscious higher power deserving of worship and adulation. But could I prove my claims to other humans? Could I get them to view my poop the way I do without coercion?

No, of course not. Some fools claim the existence of a book written by men called the bible or the koran is evidence of a higher power...I say they are just books written by men.

I don't expect my dog to understand the world his master lives in because I barely understand it myself...why do human animals arrogantly believe they could understand a Universe they have yet to truly even begin to explore?

If I said human life in the USA was the same as human life in North Korea...that would be a lie. I could actually prove it was a lie.

But if a scientist says "Life here on Earth is the same as Life is 5 million light years away from Earth" people seem to nod their heads in agreement and say "if a scientist says the Universe is the same no matter where you are...it must be true!!!!" LOL

No it is not true...might be, but it is not proven to be true and man will not prove it to be true for hundreds if not thousands of years, so they are still just GUESSES!!

THERE ARE NO RULES!!! You can put yourself in a box or allow others to place you in a box but you ALWAYS have the freedom of mind to step out of the box or eliminate it entirely.

Sounds to me like you WANT to believe in a Supreme Being but you also WANT there to be hard physical evidence to back up the belief you WANT to hold for whatever reason.

If you want to believe in a creator god...go for it, you don't need anything but the will...or hope.

Well, nobody really knows what goes on at the quantum level? Science is working hard to find out more about it. But to say it's God (the universal place-holder for ignorance) is just down right ridiculous.

I wouldn't class you as an Atheist, since you have already accepted God as existing within the quantum realm, without any real knowledge or evidence of what you describe.

"I am, to a certain extent, what you would call an Atheist"

You either believe in a god or you don't

"What is it that prevents you from accepting what science calls quantum entanglement or universal consciousness as a less fantastic but still valid interpretation of “God”"

I tend not to worship things that won't give me anything in return. This includes abstract scientific theories about the universe.

If you believe in a god, whatever that god may be, then you're not an atheist.

That being said, I don't believe in universal consciousness for the same reasons I don't believe in a god - because it's an unproven concept that has no evidence supporting it.

I also think pantheism is just a atheism in disguise because it just replaces the name universe with the name god, and that's just intellectually dishonest.

"I am, to a certain extent, what you would call an Atheist"

"I do believe in a concept of the higher power (in which I call God"

you arent speaking english. Not an insult...not an opinion...i dunno how you are defining atheist but it is not the english word.

quantum entglement is not god...you have to understand that quantum mechanics is still at the point where scientists dont really know what they are measuring...and they simply test the limits of their imagination trying t come up with all sorts of ideas looking for something with predictive power. Quantum entanglement is a sort of hunch about the behavior of quantum particles about how they seem to 'remembr' their former arrangement. YOu might notice that a rubber band has the same sort of quality. Its not mystical, its not sentient, certainly its not god.

The entire concept of deity is childishly anthropocentric magical thinking. A pantheistic stance is less intellectually-bankrupt, but still boils down to a belief in magic. This belief in magic, as well as a tendency to wishful thinking, are known deficits common in human psychology.

The simple and self-evident fact is, however, that there is no such thing as magic, regardless of how desperately people wish there was, or what rationalizations they come up with in order to pretend there is.

quantum physics is a conscious higher power? why would I think that? I have no reason to consider that true in the same way boiling water is alive because it moves around

By your belief in a higher power, you're a diest, not a atheist. There's no proof of a universal consciousness, so I choose to not believe there is one.

-That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.-

That pretty much sums it up. Quantum mechanics in NO way implies any kind of consciousness being involved. If you think that it somehow does, then you have failed to understand it.