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I can't remember all the lyrics, but the first line is 'what's going on in the world today', the lead up to the chorus is the line 'what's going on' sung 4 times with something sung in reply. The last reply is 'but I can't hear a sound' - chorus starts with 'you got to ride the storm out, you got to kick some doors down, you got to (something) but it will never get you paid. - outdo is the guy singing 'I'm swimming in the sea', over and over again.

That's what I can remember, I heard it in 1991, I think it might be a British group like Nomad, and I think it is an environmental awareness type song. Not completely pure House, but still a bit of a dance type tune.

Any ideas?

Yes, this is a genuine question to all theologists, regardless of your belief. (Or lack of)

In the NT, Jesus' teachings in the gnostic gospels completely radicalise everything in the OT, and thus Christianity was born. A new religion without the angry genocidal OT God, but a new, loving compassionate God. Only a few basic rules, of decency temperance and charity. None of this 'thou shalt not..."nonsense, and no weird rules about haircuts, wearing red, eating pork or shrimp with the left hand on a Saturday etc. Just a simple ethos available to all.

Then later in the NT, we read about Paul (previously Saul) enter into a period of enligtenment, and start rebuking other tribes in a series of letters that seem to have been influenced more about OT teachings and less about Jesus's teachings.

Did Paul completely take over and ruin Jesus' message?

I love coming to Yahoo answers & perusing the different topics, but the Religion & spirituality section is not like the other areas.

it seems to be a place where people are less about answering questions, and more about insulting Christians/atheists/everyone else.

The worst ones are the ones who ask loaded questions, geared toward their own group, something like, for example "if u atheists r so clever, how do you explain Adam & eve?" , then pick the best answer as "lolz Atheists can't. God loves you"

Don't get me wrong, the atheists are just as bad, but sometimes a bit more eloquent.

But back to my original question, and please be objective:

"what is it about the religion & spirituality section on Y! Answers that makes people so argumentative?"

...then why doesn't the Vatican liquidate its assets, surrender its trappings of luxury, and use that money to solve world poverty & world hunger once & for all, instead of just asking people to pray for the deliverance of those less fortunate, all from the comfort of their marble, gilded silken palace, festooned with priceless riches, in the middle of Rome

This always made me wonder. Judaism & Christianity are two different icompatible religions.

The OT 'Jewish' God is a big ball of rage & jealousy. He manifests himself several times & talks directly to people.

The NT 'Christian' God never really makes an appearance at all. He is apparently all about love, forgiveness & goodness.

In light of this schizophrenic behaviour, is it not more likely that the differences between the Jewish & Christian versions of God are as applicable as the differences between the Christian God and any other God from any other religion?

Well, I read the Manhattan Declaration, and over the past months, I've been hearing about all these Religious Leaders talk about how they will fight against the rights of gay men & women to wed in a church, as it is a threat to the sanctity of marriage.

Have these guys never heard of Divorce?

If ever there was a threat to the sanctity of marriage, and a direct means of breaking that sworn oath of "Death do us part", taken in a church, in front of God, then Divorce is it. Yet it seems that all these spiritual leaders are putting all this effort into opposing two people who love eachother, and their religion, of being together. Divorce has been around for years. It is socially acceptable. Divorcees are allowed to remarry. No heterosexual couple going through a divorce is ever ostracized from church. So why suddenly be so protective of "santity of marriage" when so many heterosexual people have already broken their vows & divorced, and thought nothing more of it?

Why would a gay couple marrying be a threat to the sanctity of marriage anyway? The fact that these people are so in love that they want to be united with eachother, AND with a religion that seeks to harm them, only seems to strengthen their resolve and resilience. Personally, if there was a club that didn't want me to join because of some stupid prejudice, I'd tell them where to stick it, but these gay guys & gals still WANT to be part of this prejudiced religion.

Can any christian please explain why gay marriage is not permitted, but divorce is, despite the fact that divorce is the real threat to matrimony? Please don't say things like "It's a sin" or "Leviticus this or that". I'm not interested in what you think of homosexuality. What I AM interested in, is why these religious leaders don't think divorce is such a big deal, but seem to want to deny equality.

...and did you ever stop to think that they might:

a) Be wrong

b) have an ulterior motive

c) be human & therefore prone to persuasion & opinion

d) Be regurgitating what they heard from whoever taught them christianity?

e) or that you were too young to question it, and as a result, have been possibly brainwashed?

No, this isn't a troll question. I'm genuinely interested in how christianity spreads, and why it is so different wherever you look. Why doesn't anyone question things that they are told/

I believe that the majority of Christians are inoctrinated from an early age, before they can think for themselves. They will never question christianity, just like they never question santa until someone tells them he doesn't exist.

Other people seem to turn to christianity during periods of vulnerability when they want to believe.

What I am trying to find is someone who turned to christianity of their own free will, during a time when they were happy, and capable of looking at it objectively without further influence from anyone else.

The OT does not mention the creation of Angels in Genesis. He just created Heaven. - Later on, he decides to create man in his own image.

Angels, as far as I am aware, are not part of God's plan for redemption. They are not "sons of God", as God didn't actually create them. Yet by the end of Genesis, we have mention of Angels guarding Eden with flaming swords.

Any answers that I can think of lend to contradiction, or at the very least, call the origins of creation as explained in the Bible, to question.

Either God actually did create Angels, in which case, they are children of God (and if that is the case, why the need to create Man? After all, God has already created something in his own image)

Or Angels came from the same place as God did, before the "Word" was spoken, likely not as powerful as God, but still not of his own creation. (This also means that there are other divinities, or at the very least, other supernatural beings before Genesis, and that the opening line of Genesis is not the beginning of the universe, as there was a host of beings there before)

This is a bit confusing, as both answers lead to more questions, either about the validity of Creationism or the beginning or the biblical universe as outlined in Genesis. .

This is one of the main reasons I am so skeptical of the story of Genesis, and why I am amazed that nu-creationists are so insistent that Genesis is 100% fact.

There are too many problems, that even a child can spot (and children do spot these things).

My main question concerns how God could say "Let there be light/a firmanent/night/beasts" etc., and these things just appeared out of nowhere, fully formed. How did a beast know it was to be a beast, and not a rose, or a tree, before it existed?

How come day & night were created before the Earth & Sun? We know that day & night are caused by the Earth going around the sun.

In fact, how did God measure the concept of a "Day" without the earth or the sun?

Who wrote Genesis, and how come he was able to witness all of this before the creation of man? I'm pretty certain God didn't write Genesis, so who did, and how can we state that their facts are correct?

Finally, there is a lot of criticism from the Creationist contingent against the Big Bang, especially the aspect of the universe being created out of nothing. At least Science has been analysing the answer, and is so far investigating aspects of quantum theory. - However, the Hypocrisy is that in the story of Creation, God creates all of this stuff out of nothing. He just says a word, and there it is, right out of nothing. - At least Evolution allows beasts to evolve from simple cells & the Big Bang allows stars, planets & galaxies to develop. With creationism, it's just a case of "Say the word, and there it is. It even knows what it is supposed to be before it exists!"

Honestly, I'm genuinely interested. I don't want answers that go along the lines of "It's in the Bible so it must be true". I really want a genuine answer as to why the story of Creation seems feasable to grown up adults, when even the Roman Catholic church & Othodox Jews accept the story as an allegorical account.