RJ

Will be for general home use. No gaming. Both are a major upgrade from current desktop. Just looking for opinions on which seems like a better overall purchase.

Lenovo:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-ideacentre-700-...

HP:

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-envy-desktop-intel-...

I love John 3:16, but what is another one that reflects God's love?

Here is one I like...

Romans 8:38-39

(38)For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, (39) nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.-C. S. Lewis

Do they not know the definition of persecution?

1. To oppress or harass with ill-treatment, especially because of race, RELIGION, gender, sexual orientation, or beliefs.

2. To annoy persistently; bother.

I am not saying Christians are the only group persecuted. But to deny they are, or to think 'they deserve it' just shows your bigotry.

Persecution of Christians as well as other groups are not mutually exclusive events.

You shouldn't get angry when someone talks of Christians being persecuted for their beliefs.

I can deal with it, I'm just curious to the reason why, and if it is possible for you to explain your position in a civil manner.

This is the R & S section so one could logically make the conclusion there would be questions concerning issues about, let's see, religion and spirituality.

Insults in response to questions which are nothing more than trolls wasting time, I can understand.

But why waste your time with snide remarks in response to sincere questions?

Not to mention such comments are often recycled, lack creativity, and demonstrate the respondent's lack of intellectual capacity to formulate meaningful responses.

Matthew 5: 43-48

(43) Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.

(44) But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

(45) That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.

(46) For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

(47) And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?

(48) Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

Ephesians 2:8-9

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Have a Happy New Year everyone!

Or will this upset them?

You can do the search for yourself instead of me filling up the page with evidence here.

Dr. Nelson Glueck (archaeologist)

"No archaeological discovery has ever controverted a Biblical reference. Scores of archaeological findings have been made which confirm in clear outline or in exact detail historical statements in the Bible. And, by the same token, proper evaluation of Biblical descriptions has often led to amazing discoveries."

This little parable is a good example:

Luke 15: 1-7

1 Then all the tax collectors and the sinners drew near to Him to hear Him.

2 And the Pharisees and scribes complained, saying, “This Man receives sinners and eats with them.”

3 So He spoke this parable to them, saying:

4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the wilderness, and go after the one which is lost until he finds it?

5 And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing.

6 And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and neighbors, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost!’

7 I say to you that likewise there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance.

They are LESS THAN 2% of the population.

They seem to be the most illogical segment of the U.S. populace.

Also in addition to that...why the protest that atheism isn't a religion?

Atheism is protected as a RELIGION under the First Amendment's Free Exercise Clause.

What is this clause? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

Maybe the atheists disagree, but as for living in the U.S. it's considered a religion.

The central axiom of evolution is that natural selection acts upon mutations to provide the genetic mechanism for common descent.

John Sanford-retired geneticist-Cornell University says-

"Mutations are word-processing errors in the cell’s instruction manual. Mutations systematically destroy genetic information—even as word processing errors destroy written information. While there are some rare beneficial mutations (even as there are rare beneficial misspellings), bad mutations outnumber them—perhaps by a million to one. So even allowing for beneficial mutations, the net effect of mutation is overwhelmingly deleterious. The more the mutations, the less the information. This is fundamental to the mutation process.’

Cambrian Explosion

The rapid diversification of multicellular animal life that took place around the beginning of the Cambrian Period. It resulted in the appearance of almost all modern animal phyla.

The Cambrian age in the geologic time scale is dated by scientists as being about 530 million years old.

No evolutionary sequence here, just simultaneous coexistence.

"It's as though they were just planted there, without any evolutionary history" Richard Dawkins

More quotes since you all love quotes:

Dr John Sanford-Geneticists and co-inventor of the GeneGun (former atheist)

”The bottom line is that the primary axiom [of Darwinian/Macro evolution] is categorically false, you can't create information with misspellings, not even if you use natural selection.”

Stephen Jay Gould-Professor of Geology and Paleontology, Harvard University

"The extreme rarity of transitional forms in the fossil record persists as the trade secret of paleontology. The evolutionary trees that adorn our textbooks have data only at the tips and nodes of their branches; the rest is inference, however reasonable, not the evidence of fossils."

Hmmm, he says 'not the evidence of fossils'. Interesting.

Any reasonable person should be able to understand why there are so many of us who actually do not believe in all the tenets of evolution, and see many holes/gaps in the theory which we feel have not been adequately explained.

If someone posts a quote which disagrees with evolution they are called an 'imbecile', or told to take biology class again, even if the quote comes from a reputable scientists in fields such as biology, biochemistry, cellular and molecular physiology, etc. The morons on here (many of whom probably don't hold a degree, or even a GED) want to just sling insults.

Face the facts, there are scientists which do not agree with the theory of evolution, and the ability of random mutation and natural selection to account for the complexity of life.

Chemist and five time Nobel nominee, Henry "Fritz" Schaefer of the University of Georgia, commented on the need to encourage debate on Darwin's theory of evolution. "Some defenders of Darwinism," says Schaefer, "embrace standards of evidence for evolution that as scientists they would never accept in other circumstances."

Schaefer is the 6th most cited chemist from 1981 to 1997: I doubt any of you can make such a claim, if you could I doubt you'd be on Yahoo Answers.

We (myself included) pale in our comparison to the knowledge many of these men/women hold on the aspects of evolution. So when I quote one, it is just to show someone with far more knowledge than myself (and you also) disagrees with evolution as presented to the public.

Also:

Jump in Number of Americans Who Favor Teaching Both Sides of Evolution

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2009/02/zogby_poll_sh...

Obviously there are many like myself that want to hear both sides, and objectively look at the evidence.

This is not an argument for Creationism, it is just a minor point I feel illustrates the nonsense of macro-evolution.

Well for the answer to my original question lets refer to Darwin:

On the Origin of Species, original edition, 1859, p.184

"In North America the black bear was seen by Hearne swimming for hours with widely open mouth, thus catching, like a whale, insects in the water. Even in so extreme a case as this, if the supply of insects were constant, and if better adapted competitors did not already exist in the country, I can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural selection, more and more aquatic in their structure and habits, with larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a whale."

This passage was removed from later editions of his book because of how it was perceived.

Yet Darwin still maintained his stance although he did seem to try and tone it down a bit...

“I still maintain that there is no special difficulty in a bear's mouth being enlarged to any degree useful to its changing habits.” (More Letters of Charles Darwin, 1903, p. 162)

Still trying to maintain his point, yet kind of shying away from references to whales.

Hmmm....and people wonder why some of us don't believe in macro-evolution. Perhaps it's because there isn't the science to prove it.

I'm going to say Psalm 14:1 "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good."

God provides them with all they need, and loves them even if they don't love themselves.

I may be sarcastic at times, and joke around, but in all sincerity I do pray that our words, verses, and comments can touch the hearts of the lost.

God Bless...