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Carlos Zarate vs Alfonso Zamora is one of the best slugfest I've ever seen in my life, and yet it's not talked about in the same breath as Ward-Gatti or Hearns-Hagler, even though it should be.

Two champions( Zarate the WBC champ vs Zamora the WBA champ) who are among the greatest fighters in their weight class(bantamweight), who have ridiculously high ko ratios( Zarate %90, the highest I ever seen a ko ratio, and unlike vitali klitschko it's against top competition, and Zamora 84%) aggressive swarmers, vicious left hooks, they're jabs aren't too shabby either.

This match was the epitome of aggressive boxing, with both opponents bobbing and weaving, avoiding sweeping left hooks, lightning jabs getting slipped constantly, constant power punches taken on the chin like it's nothing, true heart, true grit, two warriors that didn't back down when a weaker boxer would be knocked out in the first few seconds of round 1.

Zarate beat Zamora by devastating TKO in the 4 round, I will remember this fight till the day I'm dead. If I want to introduce people to boxing, this is one of the fights I show them, this and The War, and any fight by RJJ or James Toney, or Mosley, or Sergio Martinez.

So why do you think more boxing fans don't talk about one of the greatest matches evar?

Even the great boxers who did have great defense prior to the 60s didn't have that much feet movement, like Kid Gavilan,Sugar Ray Robinson, Joe Louis, Willie Pep,Sandy Saddler, Charley Burley and the rest of the Black Murderers' Row etc. They didn't have much foot movement, instead they depended on head movement for their defense. Not to say there weren't guys who could confuse their opponents with brilliant foot movement, just that it seemed rarer.

Now today, it seems to be the exact opposite, most of the great boxer with great defense are masters of the feet, so to speak, they confuse their opponent with their brilliant foot movement, but on the other hand, head movement seems to be lacking, allot of dudes don't know how to slip a punch, or bob and weave as they move. How did this development happen?

Which of these OG MCs would read as a battle of the ultimate duos of Hip Hip?

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There is this kid with a conduct disorder who keeps breaking into peoples houses. He breaks into my house and steals clothes all the time, what should I do. The police seem to look the other way when he does this, what should I do?

Both were defensive masters, but weren't afraid to brawl with the best of them,they both fough a sugar ray, both considered great welterweights, both are some of the best example of Afro-Latino boxers, so who takes it in this fantasy match-up?

Even though he could be inconsistant at times, when he wanted to Mike Weaver could be one tough fighter and was one of the better heavyweights of the 80s. How come he never fought Mike Tyson around say 88-91 when both were in their prime relatively?

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I pray to God that he survives and that they catch the punks who did this. Sadly, he will be paralyzed from the waist down. I can't stand to lose another great Man of boxing after losing Carmen Basilio

BQ: Has there ever been a year when boxing greats are dying so much, or is this usual for boxing?

Michael Dokes,Johnny Tapia, Teofilo Stevenson, Carmen Basilio, it's terrible. It's been a terrible year, I hope no we don't lose Macho Camacho or any other great boxers.

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He was one of the Greats. One of my favorite boxers of the 1950s, I never got to see his fights with Sugar Ray Robinson, but I seen many of his other fights with Tony DeMarco and Kid Gavilan among others. He was a amazing boxer and an example of a gentleman. He will be missed and all future boxers should look to him as an example of what a boxer should be.

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I was watching a lightheavyweight match today, between Matthew Said Muhammad and Dale Grant, and I realised that lightheavyweight division tends to produce allot of technical boxers past and present. Matthew Said Muhammad,Archie Moore,Bob Foster, Dwight Muhammad Qawi,Ezzard Charles,Billy Conn, Chad Dawson, Bernard Hopkins etc.

So what weight classes produces smart boxers? And why do you think it does?

I just got done watching Aaron Pryor vs Akio Kameda. Damn, that fight had me on the edge of my seat! How come when boxing fans are talking about epic wars they never talk about this fight?

So pleas list the underrated brawls. Don't list the obvious (Gatti vs Ward trilogy,Hagler v Hearns, Barkley v Duran etc)

I already know Henry Armstrong, Sam Langford, Manny Pac, Roy Jones, and Archie Moore, give me something I don't know.

At the moment:

All time great:

In other words, guys who can dish it out but can't take it?

As far as underrated goes I give it to Lightheavyweight. I was reading this article on the greatest lightheavies of all time and it had so much talent and so many legendary fights, it trully is slept on. It's between two more popular divisions, supermiddleweight and heavyweight, so I think that's why its ignored. Yet it has had some of the best fighters in history:Michael Spinks,Eddie Mustafa Muhammad,Mathew Saad Muhammad,Dick Tiger, Bob Foster,Billy Conn,Maxie Rosenbloom,Archie Moore,Dariusz Michelewski, and of course Roy Jones Jr. I could go on and on. I'm gonna be watching lightheavyweight in the future and all real boxing fans should as well.

I think a weight division that should receive more attention is the Cruiserweight division. It's filled with so much potential, it was only until recently these guys were heavyweights. At 200 lbs and under 6'4, it usually equals some exciting fights, from the ones I seen. Plus, CW has a weight limit, meaning these are big guys with big power but they usually come in shape, unlike those atrocious HW.

So what do you guys think is a division that is underrated while those middleweights and welters hog the spotlight? What do you guys think is a division that should recieve more attention.