You say that you believe that the Bible is true and that you base your doctrine on it. How can you than believe that Jesus isn't God when, among other verses, we have in Titus 2:13
while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ,
I don't want to criticize but only to know how you explain your believes.
achtung_heiss
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A few bible translations make it seems as though Titus 2:13 is referring to a single person Jesus as both "God" and "Savior" (for example, the questioner seems to quote "An American Translation").
Yet, invariably these same translations clearly show God the Father to be a distinct person from Jesus the Son (just a page or two earlier at Titus 1:4).
http://watchtower.co.uk/e/ti/index.htm?article=article_05.htm
My2Cents
You got some good answers from few people above. Now why don't you ask yourself these questions?
Who created God the Father? Who created Jesus Christ, the son of God? What's the difference between God and Jesus?
God the Father = Jehovah
The Son of God = Jesus Christ
To time indefinite the Father has only one name, Jehovah. The name Jehovah means "I SHALL PROVE TO BE WHAT I SHALL PROVE TO BE" (some translations may rendered "I AM THAT I AM") stated in Exodus 3:14-15. Jehovah God is not a God of confusion but of order. (Ge 1:16-18; 2:10; Ec 1:5-7; Jer 31:35, 36; 1Co 14:33) He would not say that He will be called Jehovah forever and then change His name to Jesus and called himself the son of God (the Son of Himself?).
Think about it. If Jesus is God the Father himself, why would he called himself a creation by himself as the firstborn stated in Col 1:15-16?
Why would God himself produced himself and BECOME a master worker? Wasn't He already the grand master? (Proverbs 8:22-30) If Jesus is God the Father, why would he need to receive power and authority from someone? Wasn't he already have all the power and authority? (Matt 28:18) Well, it is clearly identified that Jesus is not God the Father but the Son of God (two different beings). Jesus is a god because he is a spirit creature but he is never God the Father (Jehovah God).
God can not and will not lie. It is not His nature.
God does not confuse people. It is human doing all the confusion (with the help of the wicked spirits - Satan and his demons).
No one created God the Father (Jehovah).
Jesus was created by God.
Without Jesus, there's always be Jehovah God.
Without Jehovah God, there's no Jesus or the angels and the universe.
Heather R
You missed a word in your quote.
Titus 2:13, Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and OUR Savior Jesus Christ;
To me that means 2 seperate individuals. Jesus may be a god (notice small g) but there is only one God and His son is my savior Jesus Christ. Even Jesus worshiped God, the Father.
Oh and I use the King James Version of the bible. There are also many verses in the entire bible that prove to me that they are seperate. That and prayer and personal revelation.
Kevin
(Titus 2:13) 13Â while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus,
It sounds too much like two different persons being talked about here to me to be a scripture that tries to back up a trinity belief out of the Bible. True, your Bible does confuse the issue, but it still sounds like two persons.
There are just so many scriptures that back up the belief that Jesus was created by his Father Jehovah.
Maybe if you can take the time to read this article it might help you to see that there is just too much pointing away from the trinity.
http://www.watchtower.org/library/ti/article_03.htm
With much love for fellow man I hope you will take the time to read this and be free of this ungodly doctrine. Please read so you can at least say you know what you are not agreeing with.
Anonymous
I can tell you what I believe - God the Father, our Heavenly Father is a different person/being than Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ is the SON of God, the Only Begotten in the flesh and was the firstborn in the spirit world.
We know Jesus Christ is King of Kings and Lord of Lords...He is the Great Redeemer, Savior of Mankind. BUT we know He is also under the direction of God, our Heavenly Father, and HE is the Supreme Creator, for He created all of us - including Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ has many names...God, Jehovah, Savior, Comforter, King...