Witches, Wiccans and others, do you think this is a good reason to be concerned with the people seeking office?

Oh, I've been concerned about our country's politicians and government for quite some time. Not just for some of their twisted views on non-Christian religions in the U.S.

I have no problem with a politician being Christian, but I have a problem with their mixing our country's politics with Christian politics and trying to make them one and the same. And how about learning the facts about the people in your own country if you want to serve in its government, and working to uphold our freedoms? If you want a "free nation" and a "peaceful nation" (terms Bush has used), then how about promoting tolerance of spiritual differences and other such differences that really shouldn't 'cause us all to be at war with each other within our own country. My belief in Wicca doesn't harm Bush's or anyone elses belief in Christianity, or vice versa, in any way.

Is it just me, or does George Bush seem more concerned with freedom in Iraq and Afghanistan than he does our own freedoms here in the U.S.? I can't remember the date and the exact wording, but he had said something to the effect of every good American is a good Christian. Huh, guess that makes me a bad American? And funny, some politicians don't want Wiccans or pagans in the military practicing their faith - but same politicians have no problem with sending these people off to war to be killed or maimed in order to protect our country and its freedoms.

But aside from some incorporating too many of their fundamentalist Christian views into their jobs, how about the childish mud-slinging campaign ads? This just makes me shudder - grown adults can't stand on their own two feet and stick to speaking on their policies and their goals for their state, country, etc. No. They choose to behave like the schoolyard kid who tattle tales on everyone for every little thing they've ever done. They have to gain votes by turning the attention to their opponents and making themselves look like the "lesser of two evils", and it's a shame that many of us have come to look at it that way when considering who our votes will go to - who is the lesser of two evils that may not do anything to improve our country, but hopefully won't send it further down the crapper.

As for Palin - she need not worry about my witchcraft - I have better things to do with my magical energy than direct it at her.

Bob Barr is the proof that the Libertarian movement was a Hoax put on by the Religious Right to fool atheists who are afraid of the others (Usually Muslims today) to vote for them.

I am a Pagan, and I find this very very disturbing. There is another video, which I will link that follows the same thread of this "witch hunting" pastor and his relationship with Sarah Palin and her church. I don't dislike the woman. I think she should have the right to her own beliefs just like I have the right to mine, but she scares me because holding the number 2 place in the country (very close to the number 1 spot with McCains age and health issues) who's to say she wont light a "fire" that leads to something akin to the witch hunts of early american?

Watch this link http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22425001/vp/26798219#2...

Before you panic about politicians, you might want to get some updated facts. Your comments concerning Bob Barr are from 1999. That is 9 years ago. When Bob Barr wrote those letters he was a Congressman in Atlanta, Ga. After his comments he attended a townhall meeting that was a discussion between himself and Wiccans. After he was educated, he specfically stated he was wrong and recanted and he himself stated that he needed more education about the subject before he made such comments again. 1 person in government does not have the power to change the constitution regardless of how they feel.

Edit: Hey Truth, I gave you a thumbs up. I am pagan and voting for McCain and Palin too.

Would it surprise you if I told you that most of Americas elite and a vast majority of politicians aren't christian but Occultists? You can't claim you're a true christian if you attend the bohemian club and worship a 40 ft. stone owl and make mock human sacrifices to it. Concerned? YES. Bush is a bones man and yet claims he is a christian. We seem to vote for someone who claims they follow the bible and teachings of Jesus Christ when in fact they just use the bible as a political tool to boost they're popularity.

I think it's absolutely a reason to be concerned. Not frightened--fear precludes love, and their can be no positive change without love--but we should definitely get as involved as we can to prevent these people from imposing their narrow view of how "things should be" on the rest of us.

The subtle fictions of the invalidity of Wicca and the the notion of the nations founders as being fundamentalist Christians are easily dispelled with a bit of research--but so entrenched in many American's mindsets that it's very difficult to get those who do not challenge such beliefs to pull their blinders off long enough to actually look at the truth.

First, we must each of us continue to do our best to dispel such myths when we encounter them. Our job is not to convert others to our path, merely to help them see the truth of our choices.

Second, we must each one of us get out and get involved in our local politics. If you don't vote, you can't complain when the result doesn't go your way. To those who are undecided, or who are voting out of habit, learn what each candidates voting record actually is, rather than relying on campaign speeches. Use that, rather than endless rhetoric, when convincing others.

Thank you for the links! I will look into it then give you my opinion.

ADD: I do not think that there was any more intentional prejudice than when the Pope insulted his Cathlics by calling them Pagans.

This is just the language that they use and have used for a long time.

Maybe we should help them come up with a better language.

So, freedom of religion, as long as it's not "witch craft"?

Bunch of F***ERS!!

So, we have all of these freedoms, but not really? We have the freedom of religion, as long as it's "Christian"? And the president is going to make sure I don't practice my "witch craft" if I'm in the military?

I have no problem with other peoples religions (even if it IS christian lol! ;-)) why can't I get the same respect?!

Toto I don't think we're in America anymore...

palin already represented everything i despise about contemporary american culture before i heard about this. it's not just that she's the scariest kind of fundamentalist, but also that she's the worst kind of consumer. she has no regard for the welfare of this world because she sees it as something that her god put here for her to use up until it's spent. but, conspicuous consumption isn't limited to fundies. even pagans fall into this trap, and it runs rampant thru our society.

the auto showroom is its highest temple, and the landfill is its garden.

mccain and palin are its high priest and priestess.

a few nutjobs running a smear campaign against our faith is only a fraction of the big picture that we have to address if we're serious about having a healthy society, so i don't worry so much about that part of their agenda. it's too late to take or faith away from us, and their efforts to oppress us are only a distraction tactic for the larger agenda of consolidating power among the financial elite.

She has as much right to her beliefs as we have to ours. Our right to practice our religion is protected through law and ultimately the Constitution of the United States. If she begins trying to remove our right to practice, then we should take action, until then all this amounts to is fear mongering and it is no different than what Bush did to take us to war in Iraq.