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livelaughlove asked in PetsCats · 1 decade ago

Cats Breeding Rights?

I was recently looking at ragdoll and persian kittens, and I noticed on a few adds the breeders listed two prices. One was for the cat as a pet, while the other was for the cat with breeding rights. I was just wondering how that works exactly. I have never bought a pedigreed cat. I have bought pure breed dogs, and I have never heard of this for dogs. I always thought if you bought the animal, you could breed it if you wished. I would like to know how common this is? How do they insure that you don't breed them if you buy them as a pet? Do they spay or neuter them before you get them? If not, do they have rights to any kittens the cat I purchased may have? I do not intend to breed the cat. I am just curious as I have never heard of this. Any info would be helpful. Thanks!

Update:

Hey thanks for all the answers so far! They make sense except the breeder listed both prices for a single kitten, so in that instance whether the kitten fits standards set for the breed wouldn't really apply right?

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  • 1 decade ago
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    Reputable breeders only sell a cat with breeding rights to someone that has proven themselves to want to breed for the RIGHT reasons - 1) for the love of the breed and 2) to better the breed. If these breeders are simply giving two prices and letting anyone breed their cats PLEASE do not buy from them. These are horrible backyard breeders who could care less who is breeding their cats and their cats are most likely not if show quality animals - which means they should NEVER be bred.

    Reputable breeders are very protective of their breeding lines and also very conscious of the fact that there's MILLIONS of cats and kittens put to death at shelters. So you're COMPLETELY wrong in thinking that you can "breed if you wished". The ONLY people breeding cats should be those doing so with breed standard, show quality, registered animals and with cats that they've shown and have earned Champion and Grand Champion status.

    Where are you looking for breeders? I'm betting it's the newspaper or some online source which is the WORST way to pick a breeder. You need to either go to a TICA, CFA or ACFA show near you and meet breeders and owners or at least look for breeders linked on these registries websites. NONE of these breeders will give you two prices for altered/unaltered as ALL of them will either sell you an altered kitten or insist you alter it before you are handed its papers.

    Source(s): I have three shelter cats that are now TICA HHP show cats so I know LOTS of breeders.
  • J C
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    This is the common process, at least among reputable breeders. Breeders will sell pet quality kittens that should not be bred (these do not come with breeding rights, ever) and other kittens that will come with breeding rights, to the right person and for a fee. Some breeders will alter kittens prior to going home, others do not. The ones that do not withhold the kitten's papers until you provide proof of spay/neuter. Without those papers, any kittens that you may breed cannot be registered or shown, which makes them worth way less money. The breeder also has the right to "repossess" the kitten if you do not have them altered in the time frame, and that is always clearly spelled out in the contract they require that you sign prior to getting the kitten. Reputable breeders take these things very seriously, and I have known of some who've actually started the legal proceedings for breech of contract when the new owner didn't get the cat altered. A stern letter from the lawyer suddenly got that spay appointment made, but my point is that the breeders are dead serious, and the contract is enforceable.

    Source(s): many years of Siamese cat rescue (and reputable breeders as friends).
  • 1 decade ago

    J C is right the breeder will have 2 prices one for pet kittens and one for breeder kittens. And most breeders do not post the price of breeder kittens. Because they usually do not sell breeding right to anyone. So this person I wonder about. I do not post the price of my breeder kittens, if a breeder is interested in a kitten of my breeding and the lines behind they will call and ask. The general population does not need that information. I don't sell breeder kittens to just any breeder either.

    When you get a kitten without breeding rights then you have to have it spayed or neutered as said. If not you do not recieve the kitten's registration papers either. Without these papers you have no proof that you have the purebred cat you say you do. It will be just a plain Domestic Cat. Breeding it to any other cat will produce just plain Domestic Kittens. Not a purebred cat. Plus with breeder rights you have to pay for stud service, costing from $900 to over $2000. I don't know any breeders that will sell a breeding male kitten to anyone, except a breeder that they know very, very well. I have only 2 male kittens that have gone as breeders and they I co-own with the other person. They have to be shown to Grand Champion status also.

    There is a contract you have to sign and it will state when the kitten has to be seen by the vet when you take it home and when the kitten has to be spay/neutered by. Yes they can get the kitten back if not. And you do not recieve a refund on that kitten. Contract usually state the kitten will be indoor only, also.

    One thought is why breed a purebred cat to just any cat, not know what the genetic faults, traits or health problems that could result from the breeding. Breeders know the parent, grand parents and on back of the cats they are breeding and have worked to produce healthy kittens. Breeding a purebred cat to a Domestic cat will not produce a purebred and ends the what ever breed you have right there.

    If a breeder were to offer you breeding rights to a kitten I would back away from them, quickly. They are in it for the money not the love of the breed.

    R P CAT

    Source(s): Maine Coon Breeder 11 Years Maine Coon Breed Council CFA~TICA Registered Catteries
  • 7 years ago

    I have seen many breeders list two prices as you say. One is with breeding rights and the other is for pet only. You sign a binding contract at the time of purchase. These contracts will hold up in court! If you buy one as a pet and you turn around behind their back and breed it, you may owe the breeder over $4,000 in premiums as well as having the cat repossessed. Some people who sell rare exotics at sky high prices have only one price, say $7,000 ++. They will give you breeding rights, but they will not guarantee that the animal is breeding sound, so it could be infertile. If you are given breeding rights, it should be with a cat that merits breeding. Just because you buy an ordinary pet quality Ragdoll, doesn't give you the right to go out and breed these inferior cats that lack the ability to add anything of value to the breed. It's unethical and most breeders will not stand for it!

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  • 1 decade ago

    This is very common practice - and contrary to what most say, I doubt very much if it has anything to do with the quality of the kitten in most cases (yes there are SOME that are not good enough to breed show quality kittens from and SOME that may have genetic defects that means they definitely should not be bred from, but I am convinced most of the restrictions are nothing to do with the cat at all). It is enforced in two ways: 1. early neutering - this obviously solves the problem, the kitten is already neutered before leaving the breeder 2. you simply cannot register the kittens you breed, but no-one can actually stop you breeding. It is very bad form to breed from kittens sold as not for breeding and you will certainly find yourself very unpopular with the breeder of your kitten if you do that. So please don't. If you want to breed, even one litter, tell the breeder that up front and ask for her help and advice.

    Source(s): 18 years cat breeding
  • Ocimom
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    Actually most reputable breeders sell pet or Show/Breeding cats. Most all pet kittens are neutered/spayed when you buy them - they should never be bred. Breeding cats should be top quality show prospects that are worthy of passing on the genes. Some cats have all the qualities you want but may hate the show ring, yet can be used in a legit breeding program.

    Good breeders do not want their cats bred unless they are top quality. When I was breeding my Rexes, I sold either pet or show and all pets were spayed/neutered - I did not want them bred at all. Some breeders also sell show quality ALTERED cats where you have a top quality cat but don't wish to breed; however you still want to show them. That is what I'm dong now - I show mine in the alter classes and so far both Ocicats have gotten their Grand Championships. I'm planning on another Oci next year and he will also be shown in the altered classes. I don't want to get back into breeding cats at this time.

    With early spay/neuter and problems in the past of people breeding cats that shouldn't be bred, most of today's breeders will have them spayed/neutered before you get them (at 3-4 months old). This is to protect the breeder and to be sure their kittens are done. I too, would not buy from a breeder that advertised "breeding rights".

  • Anonymous
    6 years ago

    I have seen that too. It is so stupid to think they will buy it and not do what ever they want anyway. The only way to stop someone is if you fix them and in that case you may not sell them. I have been looking everywhere in my area within 3 hour distance for a Persian. No it does not have to have papers I just love the breed and adopted two from the spca before. I can not find them anywhere and as soon as the spca gets one they are gone so I hardly think that breeding this type of cat is going to lead to millions being put down.

  • ?
    Lv 7
    1 decade ago

    The animal listed as pet does not measure up to the standards of a cat to be shown. This is a reliable breeder who only wants to improve the breed.

    You may be required to give a kitten to the seller if the cat with breeding rights reproduces.

  • 1 decade ago

    the pet is not up to breed standards so it cannot be a breeder.

    the one with breeding rights, is up to standard. you may be required to give up a kitten from a litter or each litter the cat has. you may not be allowed to sell any of its first litter of kittens as breeders. it all depends on the contract wen you buy the cat. it also depends on the contract you get if/when you breed the cat.

    Source(s): know a cat breeder
  • ?
    Lv 4
    4 years ago

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    Source(s): Cat Is Peeing Everywhere http://catpeenomore.enle.info/?bqi2
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