Did the USA Founding Fathers Forget One in the First Amendment (RE: Wisconsin vs big union bosses)?

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We supposedly have freedom of religion and freedom from the formation of a national (or state) religion.  The founders understood that religion was vital to western liberalism and well understood the downside to national religions.  France required Roman Catholicism to work for the government, Russia required the Orthodox Catholic religion.  England required the Church of England religion.  Nazi Germany required Nazi Party membership (all other labor unions were banned) for government work such as postal carrier and railroad worker.  Many joined these religions and the Nazi Party (actually the National Socialist German Workers Party) so they could get a good job even if they had no real beliefs/sympathy for them.  

How is requiring a person to join a union, in the case of the federal government a government approved union, any different?  I felt like such a hypocrite joining the postal carriers union so I could work as a geologist for the US Forest Service when they were at odds with what I believed.  I seriously considered offering to take a big pay and benefit cut but knew that offer would just result in my not being hired.  Nobody should be forced by government to be extorted in order to get a job.  I think the forefathers missed one.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Obviously you are talking pre-1917 Russia.
In USSR it was the membership in the Communist Party, 
nowadays it is the membership in the governmental 'Russia United' party.
I cannot see any big difference though...
Orthodoxy now only has an informal influence on the government.

Any society has 'social lifts', US is not excluded.

banach · Answer

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giginotgigi · Answer

Union can always be your representative to talk with your bosses. It can also protect you from your exploitation by your boss. It can provide lawyers to bail you out if your boss illegally fired you. There are many benefit for you to join the union. although unions are going to be cut in their power, they can appeal to federal court.

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Did the USA Founding Fathers Forget One in the First Amendment (RE: Wisconsin vs big union bosses)?

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