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Argument against god?
Now I am sure everyone is familiar with the idea of god making the earth and all of its inhabitants in 7 days. Now how is this possible due to the huge differences in fossil ages? Allow me to elaborate, the difference between first animals (vertabrates for the purposes of this) and first humans is about 5 hundred million years. This is just the simplest of parts, however hold a lot of weight. If you try to argue by saying fossil records are off, they are just about as certain as your gender. Also is you say gods day is different, it is defined as a cycle of sun and moon. Also the differences in stages, water, plant, animal, human, ect. would eliminate a Christian argument.
I would just like to hear opinions, of if you don't have any good one, feel free to insult me or press a blinded belief in your god.
So Active, god is not a reasonable idea? You seem to be hurting your ideal a bit.
So you changed it to say the bible is lying there, but the rest is truth? And it specifically said days. Also numbers were not a secret code, you have clearly run out of arguments when you hit that rock bottom.
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- 9 years agoFavorite Answer
It's so hard to argue with them because they will twist the Bible to somehow make sense to them. You will get a different interpretation from every person you ask, even within the same congregation. Things that seem ridiculously impossible to you, will be taken as absolute fact to them. They are so 'blind' in their faith (willful ignorance), that logic escapes them and you might as well be talking to a brick wall.
- 9 years ago
From our observation of the galaxy, we can see that the formation of stars and plants takes millions of years and even our sun came from the remnants of older extinct stars. Peter writes in the New Testament that a day with the Lord is like a thousand years on earth. God didn't create the earth in 6 literal days. It's metaphorical language design to help us understand God and how he works. The Bible isn't "lying" when it says "days". It's just trying to break it down in bite sized chunks we can understand. The Hebrew word translated as "days" is yowm, which means everything from a 24 hour period to day (as opposed to night), a division of time, days, lifetime, time and period (general).
As for evolution, we really don't have much evidence. We have less bones than fit in half a flatbed truck and yet have created an entire narrative about mankind's ancestors. I personally believe that animals have evolved, but not that we came from monkeys.
Fossil records are reasonably close (give or take a few million), but you'll note that gender is apparently pretty fluid these days.
- BenovereLv 49 years ago
Many Christians acknowledge evolution and dismiss the creation myth as defined in Genesis. Some say that the Genesis account was a metaphorical account (the actual term used in Genesis was 'a period of time', not a literal day). Others believe that Moses, the bronze age person who wrote the book of Genesis, was in error of the account and did not know how to interpret the account he was given. Either way, this argument does nothing to disprove any God, only to show a minimal understanding of evolution and flaunt it.
The people you are trying to argue with, the fundamentalists, will never let their beliefs go, even if you had undeniable proof that there is no God (evidence that does not exist), they would deny it. Try arguing with a different group, and you might get somewhere.
- elstonLv 44 years ago
he's saying that the violence inherent in nature shows that no loving, merciful God set the full factor up. God does not could desire to be "continuously tinkering" to maintain hawks from desiring infant bunnies for his or her dinners. He could have made them herbivores. "isn't suffering, pursuit of food components, earthquakes, microorganisms, mosquitoes, and storms at sea in basic terms area of the infinite, self-renewing operation of a organic international?" Why, confident. that's why Dawkins says that the international is the end results of organic methods, not the end results of a benevolent sky daddy growing to be a appropriate international. You pronounced it your self, - that's nature in action. A god could have created a appropriate international.
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- 9 years ago
whew... where to start... first of all carbon14 dating (invented in 1949) is only 99% accurate out to roughly 2000 years, and most fossil dating is done using this method, but over 85% of the world's rock strata does not match the fossil record which was dreamed up by Charles Darwin and sir Charles Lyell (1859), who couldn't possibly know the exact placement of every type of fossil around the entire world in every strata of rock. Secondly no one can prove any millions of years past because apparently no one was there to witness it. If you take different density rocks and organisms put them in a container of water, shake it up and let it settle, everything "magically" balances out into weight and density distributions. This would show that a major water disaster happened, or a flood, if you will. This would "suggest" that certain things came before others and rock layers were laid at different times. There are instances in every river where rock stratification happens with 3-6 layers at a time. Thirdly, there is no soil between most rock layers on the earth, if they were around for millions of years, it's almost guaranteed that some type of erosion happened and there would be soil deposits between every rock layer. Not to mention there are several places around the globe where petrified trees are going vertically through several layers of rock. There are two major problems with this, 1: trees do not grow through several layers of rock for billions of years, and 2: trees tend to fall when they die, not petrify in a vertical position. I believe in God, I am a non-denominational christian who enjoys a good debate about our origins, and I believe it was 7 literal days as it says in the hebrew.
http://www.accuracyingenesis.com/day.html
- 9 years ago
Only a small minority of Christians believe that the universe was created in seven literal days. I don't.
The Bible is a collection of books that contain history, poetic writing, parables, and spiritual truths. The Bible is meant to be read as a whole, in context.
Numbers have a meaning seven means creation.
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God is supernatural, science deals with the observable. God at times intervenes and does things that are out of our realm of reason, such as becoming man.
If you are trying to find God solely by reason you probably won't find him. God is Spirit turn to your spirit and ask God to reveal himself to you. The Bible is objective truth, that needs to become subjective to your reality.
Point of clarification: I'm not saying that it's illogical to believe in God. It just requires a different kind of evidence; than the one needed in the study of science. God is real to those who have experienced him. There are many arguments for God based on reason such as the first cause etc. If you are a Bible literalist then you will find many conflicting points. The main message of the Bible is God's love for humanity and his salvation found in his Son. Everything falls on this foundation. You can accept the theory of evolution, the big bang and still be a Christian.
I know my faith is real because it fills my spiritual and rational need. You were probably brought up in an environment were you had to choose either or. God has never changed, but our understanding of him has. Jesus made it possible to understand God, the Church continues to lead us to him.
I'm fully suspect of individuals who claim to fully understand God. The Bible was not written as a book of science. It teaches spiritual truths of God, and man's purpose in this universe.
God bless
- Anonymous9 years ago
LOL @Robert, because he's an idiot.
There are more that just one interpretation of creation and who God is. Don't live in your ignorance, people. Others that aren't so closed-minded have far more worth than you.
- †Archangel TJ†Lv 69 years ago
you don't even need to. the bible contradicts itself in genesis. first it's animals then people, then it's people then animals. it says one order then it says it's another order.
- JuanLv 49 years ago
Lol @ active. He basically says God makes no sense, but he still believes in him?