Marianne

You really overuse the "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Isn't it more likely that many MRAs within the movement simply hate women and want to reduce them to property?

Here is what anti-feminist Liam said

"My ideal world:

-all females traded for money

- women good for sex from the age of 12 upwards

- outlaw all contraceptives

- make child pornography legal

- women must always look at the ground , any women who look up must be beaten and gang-raped for their insolence"

Now, I would take this a lot less seriously if I hadn't already heard these ideas from other MRAs on sites such as The SPearhead (in the comments). And many users here (Vampiric Pisces for example) openly state that women shouldn't vote.

Don't you think these "fringe elements" are bringing down the entire movement? And don't say "Feminists all want to kill men blah blah" because 1) Most do not, 2) Feminists have addressed and discredited the radicals in the movement, and 3) feminism has accomplished a lot whereas the MRM has accomplished diddly squat.

I saw a woman on TV who ran screaming back to her car because there was a cat on the steps. The cat was literally thirty or forty feet away and she flipped out, like she saw a monster or something. How could someone be scared of a tiny animal?

He piles it on the corner of our counter top, which is literally eight inches away from the trash can. He doesn't even have to open a cupboard to get to the trash. He just has to drop it in. Every time I go in the kitchen I pick up his trash and throw it in the trash can. I never say anything to him though because he works hard and I don't want to nag.

I have mild acne and nothing will get rid of it.

He sleeps next to me so he's not unattended. I also massage him with an electric massager sometimes, too. I like to spoil my cat because I feel like there are so many animals in the world suffering, I want to at least make my little boy happy.

How often do you have sex with your spouse? How many times a week?

A user named Darin posted some things he wants to make society more equal and I have to say I agree with a lot of it.

1. Make domestic abuse laws gender neutral. This would benefit gays and lesbians who are in abusive relationships.

2. End the selective service. I don't think women should be in combat because they are not as strong as men, and they would weaken the army (most soldiers in the Army would agree). Make our Army 100% volunteer so no one is forced to serve.

3. Split public assistance funds down the middle, government money spent on women must also be spent on men. Funding, cancer research, help for the homeless, single parents, etc. (Although Title IX funding does just that and many MRAs are unhappy with it). This does not apply to money raised through private fundraising, obviously.

4. Find a male form of birth control. Free birth control for men and women.

5. Make alimony temporary if a spouse was a stay at home. Give them a means to enter a job training program or schooling so they can earn their own money.

6. 50 % child custody, if both parents want this, and one is not abusive or on drugs. But what happens if one parent is too poor to support the children half time? I don't know.

7. DNA test all babies born. Would this be very expensive? I agree a man should know if a kid is really his.

So what do you think? Am I leaving something out? Please don't turn this into a b*tch fest to just bash men or women. If you hate the opposite sex I don't need to hear about it.

Whenever the topic is men committing murders, some users here deflect the question by replying with "Well women kill more babies." Besides having nothing to do with the topic, it is not a good comparison because abortion is legal, whereas murdering actual people is not. Most people do not consider a fetus to be a human being. So saying abortion is murder is a false comparison and a moot point.

And how many MRAs don't give a crap about abortion and have no desire to see it banned, but only bring it up because it gives them yet another means to bash women?