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I had asked: "Ok, atheists, all due respect, there's something I can't get past with SOME of you...? Not all of you, but a percentage of you, demonstrate regularly the willingness to refer to the historic Jesus of Nazareth as "a myth" or "superstition". This makes the rest of your group look really bad. And I know for sure that WE have our OWN share of Christians who make -us- look bad. But today I thought I'd voice something that maybe some of you can take advantage of. The rest don't make the mistake, but those among you who DO say the Jesus we preach is a myth? Please DO some RESEARCH? ...it won't take a lot to discover that there are a plentiful number both of secular historians and secular people that weren't historians who chronicle the historicity of the man Jesus Christ as the one who started a new sect, reportedly did miracles and was executed. And such documents, independent of the Bible are plentiful."

Apart from believing in Him as anything other than human... we're talking about sources INDEPENDENT of the Bible, which are clear evidences of His historic life. Here is a very incomplete list, but more than enough for anyone who isn't the type to put their head in the sand and call other people gullible:

Research the TALMUD. Jesus is listed as the bastard son of Miriam and a Roman named Pendairos. While this isn't what the Bible teaches about Jesus, it serves as documentation for His historicity and argues against mythology- as pertains to His actual birth and existence.

Research FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS (otherwise known as Joseph Ben-Matthias). He writes of Jesus at least twice. Oh, you don't like him? Fine...

Research SUETONIUS- official historian of the Imperial House. He misspells Christ, but the historic reference to Jesus is unmistakable.

Research CORNELIUS TACITUS: Historian and Roman Governor of Asia. -Mentions Christ in regard to his Christians being named and blamed for Nero's burning of Rome.

Research PLINIUS SECONDUS: Governor of Bithynia.

Research LUCIAN- a 2nd Century Satirist who ridiculed Christianity and described Jesus as: "The man who was crucified in Palestine because He introduced this new cult in the world."

Now, there's plenty more where that came from, but I don't like to endorse laziness. I have left out all the modern writings where believers and non-believers comment on Jesus' life. I have left out all mention of the Historic church fathers, many of whom were directly discipled by one of the original 12 disciples... so the list could have been expanded hugely. But I focused on a few, easily-found, non-Christian, but historic documented sources (that would be admissable in court if such a thing ever went to court.)

People are fully entitled to respect even as they may choose not to believe. Also it's their right to be willfully ignorant, if they wish! But if any wish to bring their game up -and not look ignorant as they defend their non-belief? Such as you may now eliminate entirely the "mythology" argument. Jesus is more than adequately documented as a historic life.

And so, at last, apart from irrelevant answers like "Don't know, don't care"-- which fall into the same category as the kind of mindless answers some Christians can give from time to time... and...

Apart from believing the Bible...

APART from believing IN Jesus of Nazareth as God or anything more than human...

Based on all the above and lots more besides-- can any atheist be forthright enough to say, "I don't believe in Him... but I don't deny His obvious human existence; He's no myth."?

Such will only help you be credible.

Not all of you, but a percentage of you, demonstrate regularly the willingness to refer to the historic Jesus of Nazareth as "a myth" or "superstition". This makes the rest of your group look really bad.

And I know for sure that WE have our OWN share of Christians who make -us- look bad. But today I thought I'd voice something that maybe some of you can take advantage of.

The rest don't make the mistake, but those among you who DO say that Jesus that we preach is a myth--?

Please DO some RESEARCH? ...it won't take a lot to discover that there are a plentiful number both of secular historians and secular people that weren't historians who chronicle the historicity of the man Jesus Christ as the one who started a new sect, reportedly did miracles and was executed. And such documents, independent of the Bible are plentiful.

And so, to call the man a myth is madness! --or ignorance gone to seed. Here's hoping this isn't a waste of time and space, but maybe a few will bring their game up and not bring the other atheists down.

The question?: Can you admit then that Jesus of Nazareth was a historic figure whose basic details of ministry and death are credibly and historically recorded? (One doesn't have to "believe" to concede the accepted facts.)

I believe he was pedaling the flying machine. What I remember of the lyrics "I can fly, I can fly, like a bird in the sky. I can fly, I can fly, I...can...fly." Then he suddenly says... FLY?!?!? I CAN'T FLY!!! And he starts falling out of the sky. Can anyone tell me what movie this is? Thank you!!

Not looking for imbecilic or sarcastic answers from nonbelievers, ty. This is an honest question asked for Christian believers (who have a right to believe what they want to)...to answer. TY

Old and corny but I loved it. Same with Doom if possible?

I'm asking again because I got really pathetic answers the first time.

Please notice this text that God offers David still more wives if what he had wasn't sufficient...

After King David added one more woman for himself which wasn't his to take (namely Bathsheba), God said that he had given David his master's wives... and if that had not been enough for David, would have given him more besides... so WHY did God permit and support having more than 1 wife in the Old Testament?

Can anyone tell me the name of a Jazz song and the artist who sang it-- a remix sung by Black female artist-- lyrics go "I've got a man who's always late, anytime we have a date, but I love him, yes I love him...." That's all I can think of. Help!

John 7:15 shows us it was public knowledge that Jesus had not learned letters. This was their way of saying that they knew Jesus had not attended the Rabbinical Schools in order to be qualified as a Rabbi- and thus to formally teach. Can any one declare how someone deemed unqualified would be given such permission to teach in a synogogue?

this is for the current threat that exploits weakness in IE to steal passwords- mostly used to steal gaming information. My system is a Microsoft Windows XP Home ed. 2002 Service pack 2. I found the microsoft website HOPELESSLY INCOMPREHENSIBLE (evidence that at least some mankind WAS descended from apes) -as far as their supplying a simple, easy-to-find download button.

We've all heard this claim. I'm looking to either substantiate or invalidate it in my own mind. Please don't just answer "He did" or "He didn't" or "It's a myth."

But watch the nimnulls file out to answer that way anyway.

I'm wanting only those people who HOLD and cite DOCUMENTATION that either favors or disproves this notion to cite where such documentation is to be found.

Believers in the Bible only please. My quota for sarcastic answers was met back in 2003

What can I tell her... or where can I direct her? Might be dental... but no dental insurances either. It will take her 2 weeks to save the $30 that it will take to be seen by the ER at the local hospital. Surely there is something she can do to be seen by someone right away? Any free clinics near Port St. Lucie?

(She mentions she has several bad teeth and her jaw hurts... and headache )

Does anyone have some names of prominent scientists that fit this trend?