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anyone suffering from schizoid personality disorder or know anyone with it? / need assurance / help?
i seem to fit the criteria, but based off what i read on forums of people apparently diagnosed with it or say they have it, i dont seem to have most of the traits people explain. for instance, they say that they dont really have a problem with interacting with others, they simply dont like to. but for me, i dont understand how its possible for people to not engage with others ( humans ) and still be happy / have a balanced life. its as if these people are robots. i for one, have been living in solitude for the past 2 1/2 years or so, age 21 now, barely going out, when i do, its only when im already part of a group and things have already been flowing smoothly beforehand which would also affect my mood, generally im cautious, observant, and passive, and bland i guess. like when i go to parties, with of course, my brother that takes me to them as i almost never went to any by myself, i would just follow him everywhere. when confronting people that i know from saying hi occasionally before, i usually wait for the other person to get full eye contact and attention to me and then i approach the other person to say hi, this is if i decide to approach them, when they are approaching me, its difficult for me to function right. like i will either completely walk past someone that would say hi to my brother, or i would stand there and then give a hug / weak smirk / handshake, this is a problem for both girls and guys. im a guy btw, if its a girl, i feel awkward,
but if its a guy, il feel kind of the same too. im straight btw. sometimes when people approach me, i get confused, and react slowly, usually from being self conscious really or my brain fogging up, or its just simply awkward. like they will say something, i wont take in the information all the way and try to remember and process what they say within that time frame and give an answer but its difficult.
one of the theories i read on one site is this person said that people with true schizoid personality disorder crave excitement, and i can relate to this very well, but this is more so when i was younger, early teens to late teens, this is when you could say i wasnt "depressed", or the "Depression" wasnt noticable, implying that i had depression my whole life or maybe its something else, anyways, one of things that would get my really excited is when my brother's best friend from the city i used
to live in or we used to live in would come to the one we moved to and thats when i would get super happy and feel like we were the cool kids of the city and i liked getting that attention of people seeing us, i would always picture him, my bro, and his friends coming to my school and raising commotion, simply for the thrill and excitement and seeing people's faces on the sides like "who are these people", never seen anyone like them in a curious way.
all of this has changed though, i dont know if its the environment, my personality formed or other things but even if these happy situations were to come, i wouldnt react or feel the same way, and i dont think its necessarily from "depression" but other factors. i guess its my personality, back then, i was simply living in the moment and didnt need to worry / understand anything else, because either i didnt understand them or they werent important, but now, it just doesnt feel like that..
there was one thing i did have trouble with since i was like 10 or so, which was eye contact and social awkwardness, i remember i would put my head down on the desk in middle school years, high school, and i still do it a little now too, not because i was tired really, but because i felt uncomfortable in the environment, out of place, awkward. espicially when i had to sit adjacent to people in a classroom / a table, sometimes i would also turn to the side and stare at other people as well.
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- Anonymous7 years ago
Sounds more like very mild social anxiety than schzoid. I say this because you talk about your behavior at parties, when seing someone you know but not acknowledging the person the way your brother would. The part about craving excitement could be related to your youth or to you feeling more isolated. The daydream you described seems like you are wanting to get noticed by people in general, which is ok. It seems like you may need to take more initiative around people such as simply saying hello to those you know and making sureyou have something interesting to follow up with. That means small talk. If you said hello and the other person greeted you back, then what? Do you have problem making small talk like if you noticed the person had a different car, would it instantly come to mind to comment on the new car? Small talk is commenting on what is. In front of you, movies, music, books, sports, and even other people that both of you know.
The people with schizoid can interact with ot
Source(s): Interact with other they just don't want to, almost never. You seem to want to, but are not sure how? Or afraid of making a mistake and this uncertainy feels akward? Check into social anxiety also, it seems more appropriate. - Anonymous7 years ago
I am convinced I have this disorder (awaiting clinical assessment)
This caught my attention "I dont understand how its possible for people to not engage with others and still be happy / have a balanced life. its as if these people are robots."
The way I would describe my situation is that my mind is not 'all here' I am perfectly aware of what's going on around me but at the same time my mind is not engaged in the moment, all my responses are very artificial and detached. I tend not to feel in the moment, I tend not to take much notice of the moment (beyond what is necessary) and if I react to the moment it's a reflexive phrase, motion or response.
For example if someone smiles and says hello I will smile back and greet them. I'm not smiling because I'm happy to see them or particullary acknowledging them, I'm smiling because it's a polite and practiced response.
If someone engages me in casual conversation at work I will look them in the eye, fix a look of interest on my face and reply with any number of 'pre-rehersed' conversation in my head, designed to placate them and end the conversation quickly but politely.
What goes on around me in my day-to-day life seems less real than say talking online to you or reading a book. The other half of my mind that's not engaged in the moment is drifting through any number of stories, works of art, locations, theories, fantasies or anything else of interest to me and it's like living two lives at once. I'm here because I physically have to be here and being here requires my participation but wherever my mind goes the rest of the time is the more comfortable and natural environment for me, that's where I would rather be and my mind goes there automatically. It's not something I can control, it happens almost as soon as I wake up and it won't end until I fall asleep. It can be somewhat disorientating, especially if I happen to snap back into the moment suddenly (someone drops something and makes me jump or I have to react suddenly to something)
I am incredably nervous and shy. If I know someone I will open up and chat animatedly to them, there's even a few people I -like- and actively seek out to spend time with but they really are a select few, everyone else is a pleasant aquaintance for the sake of prosperity and necessity.
I don't like to see people hurt or in pain, if I see someone in genuine distress or need that snaps me right back to Earth and into the moment, even if it's a stranger, even if it puts me out or places me well outside my comfort zone. I will focus entirely on that person until I am satisfied they are ok, only then will I return to my 'other' zone.
I don't feel much in the moment, sometimes I feel a spike of genuine amusement or distress but that's it. I act to appear more varied and approachable but inside I am very 'robotic' and distant from my feelings. I do have them but they are very subdued compared to most people's. When I was younger I used to experience a full range of varied emotions and I was right in the moment so I know what I should be feeling vs what I do feel.
Many schizoids don't have a happy or balanced life but they don't care, they don't feel happiness or sadness, self-consciousness or concern in the same way as others and often they don't understand those emotions when they do experience them.
Let me give you an example. If I see someone crying because they had a breakup with their partner I feel genuine concern and pity for them and it upsets me to see them so unhappy, I want to try and comfort them. But I don't actually understand why they are unhappy, I understand the cause of their unhappiness (the breakup) but I don't understand why it causes that kind of sadness and that's what separates me from others so much. I don't understand normal emotional responses, I don't understand what people feel (even if I understand the cause/trigger for those feelings) and so I feel completely isolated because of that.
A colleague of mine was crying in the office the other day because her daughter had been scammed out of a considerable amount of money, the daughter had called her in distress and so she became distressed. My immediate thought was "what good does crying do, there are steps your daughter can and should take to get that money back" and my instinct was to offer advice on how the daughter could get the money back and resolve the problem; but that's not what my colleague wanted, she just wanted to cry and have a shoulder to lean on.
Fair enough, my ear was open and I had a shoulder ready and waiting, but her response made no sense to me so despite my best efforts I was still removed from that colleague and my other colleagues who seemed to 'get' the emotional aspect.
I don't like being around people for that very reason and so I prefer isolation, I understand my own mind and my own responses.
I think people often react irrationally because of their emotions and that unpredictability makes me very wary of trusting them. It's not so much a fear of people as a distrust and awkward sense of self-separation.
I don't have many friends, I do have quite a few aquaintances, I don't automatically consider my family to be in my close circle, there are many family members I am wary around and would rather not bother with. Do I still love them and care about them? Yes.
Is there anyone I trust openly and implicitly? Yes. People who have the time and patience to work through my 'distant' behaviour and understand that my need for space is not an automatic rejection are treated to my full personality (which is actually quite chatty, mischevious and engaging)
I do get lonely, I do seek interraction with others when that loniness gets too much (but afterwards I usually retreat back into isolation for a while)
I do have a job, I work in a medium-sized office and share my immediate workspace with at least 7 others.
I attend social events when specially invited (or obliged to) and I am happy to join in a conversation.
Do I get depression? Yes.
Do I crave excitement? Yes. Something new or exciting will pull me 'into the moment'
However remember that I have not been formally diagnosed and I have had more than a decade to practice my interactions and responses. In some ways I would come across as quite a high-functioning schizoid (at the moment)
What you have describes sounds like social anxiety to me (possibly GAD) and a strong tendency towards introversion.
You seem to lack the emotional dulling that schizoid's experience and the disconnected experience associated with it. The only way I can describe it is like only having half your brain with you and functioning in the moment. You're here but you're not.
My tendencies didn't start emerging until I was 17 and they didn't fully form until my early 20's. It's something that tends to worsen as you age. It's also a disorder strongly associated with schizophrenia in the family. If you have a relative with schizophrenia there is an increased risk of having SPD.