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John 18:37

King James Version (KJV)

37Pilate therefore said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. Every one that is of the truth heareth my voice.

Note what the Christ says, here:

John 17:17

King James Version (KJV)

17Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

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even though these have been proven to be NOT of or from God. Texts as in the Textus Receptus and any translation that used these as source texts, e.g. KJV?

1 John 5:7-8

New International Version (NIV)

7 For there are three that testify: 8 the[a] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

Footnotes:

a. 1 John 5:8 Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. 8 And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the fourteenth century)

1 John 5:7-8

King James Version (KJV)

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

1 John 5:7-8

New Living Translation (NLT)

7 So we have these three witnesses[a]— 8 the Spirit, the water, and the blood—and all three agree.

Footnotes:

a. 1 John 5:7 A few very late manuscripts add in heaven—the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And we have three witnesses on earth.

1 Timothy 3:16

New Living Translation (NLT)

16 Without question, this is the great mystery of our faith[a]:

Christ[b] was revealed in a human body

and vindicated by the Spirit.[c]

He was seen by angels

and announced to the nations.

He was believed in throughout the world

and taken to heaven in glory.

Footnotes:

3:16a Or of godliness.

3:16b Greek He who; other manuscripts read God.

3:16c Or in his spirit.

1 Timothy 3:16

King James Version (KJV)

16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Revelation 1:11

King James Version (KJV)

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Revelation 1:11

New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

11 saying, “Write in a book what you see and send it to the seven churches, to Ephesus, to Smyrna, to Pergamum, to Thyatira, to Sardis, to Philadelphia, and to Laodicea.”

…the unbelieving Jews, in the time of the Apostles, opposed Christianity with the utmost bitterness and passion. They sought on every side for objections to it. There was much in its character to which the believing Jews could hardly be reconciled. The Epistles are full of statements, explanations, and controversy, relating to questions having their origin in Jewish prejudices and passions. With regard however to this doctrine [the Trinity], which if it had ever been taught, the believing Jews must have received with the utmost difficulty, and to which the unbelieving Jews would have manifested the most determined opposition, – with regard to this doctrine, there is not trace of any controversy. But, if it had ever been taught, it must have been the main point of attack and defense between those who assailed, and those who supported Christianity. There is nothing ever said in its explanation. But it must have required, far more than any other doctrine, to be explained, illustrated, and enforced; for it appears, not only irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Unity of God, but equally so with that of the humanity of our Saviour; and yet both these doctrines, it seems, were to be maintained in connexion with it. It must have been necessary, therefore, to state it as clearly as possible, to exhibit it in its relations, and carefully to guard against the misapprehensions to which it is so liable on every side. Especially must care have been taken to prevent the gross mistakes into which the Gentile converts from polytheism were likely to fall. Yet so far from any such clearness of statement and fulness of explanation, the whole language of the New Testament in relation to this subject is…a series of enigmas, upon the supposition of its truth. The doctrine, then, is never defended in the New Testament, though unquestionably it would have been the main object of attack, and the main difficulty in the Christian system. It is never explained, though no doctrine could have been so much in need of explanation. On the contrary, upon the supposition of its truth, the Apostles express themselves in such a manner, that if it had been their purpose to darken and perplex the subject, they could not have done it more effectually. And still more, this doctrine is never insisted upon as a necessary article of faith; though it is now represented by its defenders as lying at the foundation of Christianity.

Luke 18:8

English Standard Version (ESV)

8 I tell you, he will give justice to them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on earth?”

Who TODAY are the faithful and true?

Evolutionists conveniently ignore the various discrepancies to their fallacy, as all who support fallacies do?

If I did not set up my Hub account to benefit financially, and I am not interested in financial gain, in what way could my Hubpages being used as a source for my answers be considered soliciting?

Also, if there are multiple links within the linked page, how can it be considered irrelevant?

Example Genesis.

As the 'missing' elements of the Periodic Table were eventually discovered long after their predictions, likewise the provable parts of the Bible authenticate ALL of the Bible?

Are wayward religious views the reason for all hatred on earth from the dawn of mankind till now?

Revelation 18:24

GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

24 “The blood of prophets, God’s people, and everyone who had been murdered on earth was found in it.”

Revelation 18:4

GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

4 I heard another voice from heaven saying, “Come out of Babylon, my people, so that you do not participate in her sins and suffer from any of her plagues.

1 John 3:8

GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

8 The person who lives a sinful life belongs to the devil, because the devil has been committing sin since the beginning. The reason that the Son of God appeared was to destroy what the devil does.

Can it be justified for your legitimate answers to be deleted en bloc because your source is said to be irrelevant when in fact it contains multiple links with relevant info?

The cited source on the surface may appear to be not relevant but the various links cited in its body contain relevant information.

Why can't I protest their action which is totally unjustified since my source has multiple links.

1 John 5:7-8

New International Version (NIV)

7 For there are three that testify: 8 the[a] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

Footnotes:

a. 1 John 5:8 Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. 8 And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the fourteenth century)

1 John 5:7-8

King James Version (KJV)

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

1 John 5:7-8

New Living Translation (NLT)

7 So we have these three witnesses[a]— 8 the Spirit, the water, and the blood—and all three agree.

Footnotes:

a. 1 John 5:7 A few very late manuscripts add in heaven—the Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. And we have three witnesses on earth.

Also compare Revelation 1:11 and 1 Timothy 3:16

It is reasonable to condemn the English rendering of the Tetragrammaton, YHWH as JEHOVAH?

Which is worse the use of the confusing title of LORD as at Psalm 110:1

Psalm 110:1

King James Version (KJV)

110 The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Rather than:

Psalm 110:1

American Standard Version (ASV)

A Psalm of David.

110 Jehovah saith unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, Until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

Why does man so readily dance to the fiddler's tune?

What is to be expected if the majority by far of Bibles have been translated by Trinitarians or FOR Trinity sympathizers?

Why cannot MOST people realize that the vast majority of Bibles have been influenced by the beliefs of their translating committees as regards Trinity, Immortality of the Soul, the Hebrew sheohl and the Greek haides being corrupted by the Hellenized "hell" concepts?

Since we are not eyewitnesses of events as they occurred nearly two thousand years ago [when the “New Testament” was recorded] , then we need to utilize ALL information at our disposal.

The very person who was inspired to write the Epistle that bears his name, John, says at John 20:31 according to the KJV.

John 20:31 (King James Version)

31But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

The same John who penned the Epistle called John, also penned the book of Revelation.

Revelation 1:6 (King James Version)

6And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

And again:

Revelation 3:1 (King James Version)

Revelation 3

1And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

9Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

Please NOTE, that worship as used here MUST be an incorrect rendering.

Revelation 3:9 (Young's Literal Translation)

9lo, I make of the synagogue of the Adversary those saying themselves to be Jews, and are not, but do lie; lo, I will make them that they may come and bow before thy feet, and may know that I loved thee.

Continuing………

Revelation 3 (King James Version)

11Behold, I come quickly: hold that fast which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.

12Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.

13He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

Note please, that even as a glorified spirit Being, Jesus, the Word, refers to his God, JEHOVAH.

Compare please 1 John 5:7, 8; Revelation 1:11 and 1 Timothy 3:16 with as MANY DIFFERENT Translations.

John 1:1c.

The Word had a beginning and was with God, the Word was like a god, i.e. the Word was divine.

God is YHWH/ JEHOVAH and is UNCAUSED [Revelation 4:10], the Word had a beginning and is the First Cause [Micah 5:2; John 1:2, 3; Colossians 1:15-17; Hebrews 1:1, 2; 1 Corinthians 8:6].

Compare 1 John 5:7, 8; Revelation 1:11 and 1 Timothy 3:16, in the KJV v.s. NLT, NIV, ESV, GNB etc.

What had to be done to reverse the consequence of imperfection, death, passed on genetically to ALL descendants of Adam and Eve? Romans 5:12; 6:23.

Genesis 2:15-17

American Standard Version (ASV)

15 And Jehovah God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it.

16 And Jehovah God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:

17 but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

The distinguished grammarian and Coptic scholar John Martin Plumley, former professor of Egyptology at Cambridge University and author of Introductory Coptic Grammar, (London: Home & Van Thal, 1948), had this to say about the significance of the Sahidic Coptic version:

"While there are limitations to the use which can be made of the Coptic version as an aid to the recovery of the original Greek text of the New Testament . . . it should also be recognized that by and large the Coptic version can be a valuable aid to the scholar engaged in textual criticism, and because in certain passages it preserves very ancient traditions of interpretation, it ought to be of considerable interest to the scholar working on the history and development of Christian doctrine." -- Quoted in The Early Versions of the New Testament, by Dr. Bruce M. Metzger

Neither the grammar nor meaning of Coptic 1 Corinthians 8:6 or Ephesians 4:6 is the same as Coptic John 1:1c, so those verses cannot be used to exegete Coptic John 1:1c. Whereas ou.noute n.ouwt means a single god, i.e, "one god" or "one God" (in context, with reference to the Father), the fact remains that ou.noute means "a god." It does not mean some philosophical unity that calls for translating it as 'the one and only God.'

It would be far more honest to read Coptic John 1:1c for what it says, instead of trying to import foreign concepts into it.

And what Coptic John 1:1c clearly says is "the Word was a god." Or, if you prefer, "the Word was divine." But definitely not, "the Word was God."

John 1:33-34

English Standard Version (ESV)

33 I myself did not know him, but he who sent me to baptize with water said to me, ‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’ 34 And I have seen and have borne witness that this is the Son of God.”

John 10:33-36

English Standard Version (ESV)

33 The Jews answered him, “It is not for a good work that we are going to stone you but for blasphemy, because you, being a man, make yourself God.” 34 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’? 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came—and Scripture cannot be broken— 36 do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, ‘You are blaspheming,’ because I said, ‘I am the Son of God’?

Acts 5:30

English Standard Version (ESV)

30 The God of our fathers raised Jesus, whom you killed by hanging him on a tree.